M, did you self-cater then? Obviously that's a hot issue here anyway, but I felt like the meat was a whole new level with Erin's point.
Personally if you're going to eat meat I would definitely prefer, like you said, it's ethically sourced and/or personally killed. Too many people can ignore the horrors of mass-meat-production since they're not doing it themselves.
I hate camo in weddings. I just...wtf, no. Especially pink camo. And hunter orange accents. Wtf people.
I don't get having a reception where you don't have enough seats for the number of butts that will be present. Apparently though, some rude brides think this is a new "thing."
Casual clothing mixed with formalwear. If you're doing it, more power to you. As a guest, it makes me roll my eyes.
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I did not self-cater, I had a professional caterer.
Cat, don't even get me started on you, that's not worth it, I accept I have taken a life, and my ethics are different than yours, clearly.
I also harvested it, or as Cat would prefer me to say, shot it myself, watched the last breath of life leave the body, and then thanked it, though it had no choice, I am always grateful.
I have no problem with anyone eating any kind of meat. I think it's awesome you raise it yourself (and if you use all of the animal that's super cool). I'm sure it tastes much better then meat at the grocery store because it's fresher. I have a problem with people who say they "ethically source their meat". Factory farm or private farm the animal still gets killed/harvested/whatever word you want to use. You might treat your animals more humanely but they still get killed. It's the same result but a different way. It's not more ethical then going down to the Fresh Grocer.
I think you got a little too defensive there.
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I don't raise them, I hunt wild animals, so they live a full life in the wild, from where I source them. So again, they are ethically sourced.
Also "murdered" is a word I would use if I killed a deer because it slept with my husband. At best, this is "animal slaughter."
And can you blame me? Anti-hunters are strong with their misinformation.
And to say that factory farms and hunting in the wild are the same ethically is a great example of the gross misinformation you're dealing with and using to form your opnions.
I never said murdered? I also never said it's exactly the same I said it has the same end result, because it does. I appreciate your view of things but I still feel it's the wrong word to use.
CatBones, you did use the phrase "murdered animal" right after my post. I assume that's what M is referencing.
I think M means that a life cut short in the wild would be considered to be higher quality than a life cut short after living your whole life in crowded and terrible conditions.
Not passing a value judgment on either of you, just (hopefully) clarifying.
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Holly thanks so much, I'm making quick posts between phone calls today, thanks for the calcification, I know my words aren't all here right now.
Ethical means related to principles, and we obviously have different principles, because a dead animal is not inherently wrong to me. So, again, it was the right word to use.
Anything involving animals/insects (that aren't part of the family), animals are not props! If the animal is a pet of the bride and groom that's one thing, that's incorporating someone who is important to the bride and groom.
Head tables.. no, no, no, no, no. Seriously, my biggest pet peeve.
It seems to be a Midwestern thing to me. My FH is from Chicago, and every wedding I've been to with him, there has been a head table. He's been in pretty much all of them. I absolutely, positively hated getting stuck at the "dates" table. I'm from New Jersey -- I've never been to a wedding on my side where there HAS been a head table. I just find it so disrespectful to the BP to separate them from their dates. Sure, it's 45 minutes for dinner... but tack that on to alllll of the events with getting ready, ceremony, etc. and you're keeping your BP away from their dates from much longer. FH and I have actually had multiple disagreements on this. He wants a head table to be able to "sit with his friends", yet can you really talk to anyone but the people on either side of you? To compromise, we're doing a table with all of our siblings and their significant others.
Can we please all collectively agree to discontinue head tables?!
@Kelly my FH is the same way about the head table! He threw a fit when I suggested we do away with the head table and just sit among our guests! I tried soooo hard to convince him that it was rude to our BEST FRIENDS to separate them from their dates/SOs. Ugh! Ultimately, I came up with a compromise. We're doing a 'head table', but not setting it up traditionally. Basically the head table will consist mostly of siblings who are in the wedding and don't have dates with the exception of my brother and his wife (who are both in the BP) who will sit next to each other at the head table. Sometimes my FH has the strongest opinion about the most unexpected things...