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Sharon
Savvy December 2012

Is it wrong to have a non-legal ceremony? NOW I NEED A BEST MAN TOAST!!!!

Sharon, on December 10, 2012 at 6:54 AM

Posted in Etiquette and Advice 233

I am getting married on Saturday and my fiancé 's wife will not sign the divorce papers to be spiteful. One couple in my wedding party said they do not want to be part of the ceremony because it is a "fraud." I asked a lawyer and he said there is nothing illegal about having the ceremony and...

I am getting married on Saturday and my fiancé 's wife will not sign the divorce papers to be spiteful. One couple in my wedding party said they do not want to be part of the ceremony because it is a "fraud." I asked a lawyer and he said there is nothing illegal about having the ceremony and legalizing it later. My "friend" said I need to tell the guests it is not legal before the ceremony or she and her husband will not be part of it. I spent a lot of money on this wedding and don't think I need to cancel it when I am doing nothing illegal. How do I explain why they are not in it? We live in a small town and questions will be asked. Could my lawyer be wrong? HELP!

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  • Carole M (a.k.a "old tart")
    Master October 2011
    Carole M (a.k.a "old tart") ·
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    Bravo, Sharon is now ringless!

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  • Jen P.
    Master January 2012
    Jen P. ·
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    In Washington, it's illegal to spit on sidewalks. It's fine-able.

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  • Gee O. aka Happily Wifed Up
    Master June 2012
    Gee O. aka Happily Wifed Up ·
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    Lol Mrs S....this your question though! Lol, i can imagine for them to have gone this far, they thought things would have cleared up by now, but now reality is upon them (insert movie audio here) and I would imagine he is as tensed as she is and trying to find a solution.

    Yay at the Ringless Sharon! Now you shall never be forgotten Smiley smile

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  • Sharon
    Savvy December 2012
    Sharon ·
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    He is with my family that it doesn't matter because we want to get married. In our hearts we are going to be even without the paper. He has not said anything about the couplewho wanted to back out. I think he is just happy to be celebrating with me.

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  • Gee O. aka Happily Wifed Up
    Master June 2012
    Gee O. aka Happily Wifed Up ·
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    Oops!

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  • Sharon
    Savvy December 2012
    Sharon ·
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    I feel like this is getting out of control!!! Now the best man is asking what he should say at the toast. He is now with the other couple that this" isn't a

    wedding." When the guys went for the tuxes today they were talking. More suggestions needed! I am so glad I have you people to help!

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  • tiedaknot™
    Master March 2013
    tiedaknot™ ·
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    Yay!! I love the new avatar =)

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  • Sharon
    Savvy December 2012
    Sharon ·
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    Rings to braceletsSmiley smile

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  • tiedaknot™
    Master March 2013
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    Thank you for not getting all pi$$ed off at us =) We are a very passionate bunch but we are full of love and opinions, and advice, and comments LOL HOLY SNIKEY....I forgot pictures and bull$hit.......YEP that about covers what we are full of =)

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  • Sharon
    Savvy December 2012
    Sharon ·
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    Definitely not P'd off! I need help and I feel like I am hearing things from all sides. I really want my friend in the wedding and want to do the right thing. I just didn't know it would cause this much hassle. I needed help and you have all been great!

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  • Pan
    Master March 2012
    Pan ·
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    Didn't post the links to discourage or anything. Just making sure you know. The statute isn't really a big deal as far as jail or legal repercussions from the state, it's just more stuff that could be ammo for his soon to be ex wife.

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  • Sharon
    Savvy December 2012
    Sharon ·
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    Appreciated. She isn't asking for anything and didn't even get a lawyer. I offered her $ but she still won't sign.

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  • Mrs. S™
    Master October 2011
    Mrs. S™ ·
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    Why are you handling his divorce?

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  • Sharon
    Savvy December 2012
    Sharon ·
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    Because that's the way he is...

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  • Celia Milton
    Celia Milton ·
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    You know, I come here because I hope I can add value to the mix, as do many of the pros who come here. For the most part we're very good at what we do, and offer opinions based on years of involvement with weddings; not only for our livelihood, but because we sincerely love being part of a day that should be like no other. I tend to take posts at face value and assume they ask for advice because they sincerely want it, and plan on considering what is said in good faith. When I (and so many others) tell you that your intended act is fraudulent, ill-mannered and potentially hurtful to everyone around you, including you and your 'fiance", I don't honestly expect a recitation of stupid laws regarding animals, spitting and taking a horse drawn cart on a highway (illegal in NJ).

    It's real, real clear that what the OP is planning is illegal. It's not a commitment ceremony between two gay partners, it's not a marriage, it may not even be a real poster. Carry on with the jokes. I'm out.

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  • T
    VIP April 2012
    Tabatha ·
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    Sharon- if you want advice on a wedding toast I suggest a new post. People are going to let this drown. When things get too long people avoid posts. New question- New post.

    Sam- 12 pages of AWESOME!!!!!!!! We are the wedding wire girls and we will be heard!! DUH! Smiley winking

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  • Sharon
    Savvy December 2012
    Sharon ·
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    Thank you all. Again this is a real post.

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  • Kathy
    Master July 2010
    Kathy ·
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    Best Mans Toast:

    Raise a glass to Fred, raise a glass to Maude,

    This entire wedding has been a fraud.

    Thank you for the gifts and all the money,

    The bride has now not married, her already married honey.

    If you have the receipts, or just like what you bought

    Not to worry, all is not for naught.

    Give that gift to a charity, to a person in need,

    The Bride and the Groom could not to the deed.

    The lesson to learn is pretty damned easy,

    Do not lie to your friends, that is totally sleazy.

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  • Jessica
    Master September 2017
    Jessica ·
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    After all that, all I can think is something I cannot say... Cause I am really good at at saying not so nice things to real people when I think they are something else...

    Common sense to not plan anything until there can be a legal commitment... Have a good party and let your guests know as stated in the beginning... Surprised WWChristina hasnt shut this down yet...

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  • T
    VIP April 2012
    Tabatha ·
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    Lol


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