Candace Cameron Bure /submissive wife

@Kate - That's the problem - it's so subjective. To you, it just means that he'd be willing to die in your place. Other people interpret Christ's love as being perfect, and humans aren't ever able to attain perfection. Not to start a deep theological discussion, but that's where my mom was coming from.

@Mrs K. - Some people do think it's stupid. The OP asked for opinions. Not everyone is going to agree.

Um woah

" If you are not a Christian or don't believe in God, you wont understand/agree with it."

Hi. I'm a Christian and do believe in God. and definitely do feel a an equal compromising partnership honoring and respecting one another is the way to go. Not deferring to a man as head of household automatically. Please don't speak for all Christians.

Clearly posters can agree to agree or agree to disagree. As long as they are on the same page with their spouses/future spouses that's what's important.

I already tried this Ab, Shannon didn't understand. Obviously there are plenty of others that don't either.

The Old Testament is often very harsh. Jesus brought a new message, and if you look at the New Testament, Jesus has an incredible amount of respect for women. It's pretty commonly accepted that the Old Testament has a more wrath of god feel and the New Testament has a more love of god feel. I believe that Jesus's newer message trumps any conflicting older messages.

But thanks for attacking the foundation of my beliefs

@Superman- Yes you are right. I think I'll just stop reading this thread. :-)

Shannon, you did the same to me. HEY POT!

Supermanbride no I did not attack the foundation of your faith. If you are Christian, we have the same foundation. I said that you may not have been taught it or choose to follow it but that it is in the bible

Ok ok ok. So if there is one president, then why does that president need to be a man? Can't the man be submissive to his wife? The theory needs to work both ways or we are just back to 1939.

@LetItSnow - awesome question...

Also - why does the sentate and house get the ability to shutdown a bill within congress?

Checks & balances are crucial to any working relationship

@let it snow in the religious reasoning, the husband represents Jesus, and the wife represents the church. So as I said before, Jesus leads the church, he church doesn't lead Jesus.

From a non-religious perspective, then I don't know

Wow- I am utterly shocked that so many people agree with this article.

Yes, I understand the way that "submissive" is meant by in the article. I know people who are like this- by the way, both males and females are like this- I have known both. Yes, sometimes it seems to work for them, but it doesn't stop me from feeling sad for the "submissive" person. If it's your cup of tea, then cool, but I don't get it.

I am christian- very much so. but I think the key is that BOTH partners should be submissive to each other. They are BOTH supposed to obey. BOTH should be willing to do anything for each other, die for each other, and even let the other win an argument sometime. I think the key is that if you say that one partner over the other should let the other decide, or end the argument, or make the final decision all the time, you already have an unequal partnership- which makes it a partnership no more. Please don't pretend it is an overarching christian prinicpal- it is not.

Being a Christian and having been raised by Christian parents, the word "submit" does not make me weak or make my FH and I unequal, it is the word used in Ephesian 5:22 to began to describe how Christian husbands and wives should act towards eachother. And, it's BEAUTIFUL and all points back to how Christ both Submitted to the Father's will and also Loved the church so much that he gave his life for those who believe. This is what Candace is referring to and I recommend everyone who truly wants to know more about why she used this word to read the entire chapter of Ephesians 5.The man doesn't get off easy either though, just so yall don't think it's one sided. If you are not a Christian, I totally understand why you wouldn't get it and why it might be offended. Just wanted to share

@blondie123 I agree with you. That's an integral part of it. The bible says that the husband is the head of the household like Jesus is the head of the church, but because the husband is willing to die for the wife and do what's best for her, he would never make a decision that she didn't agree with. It doesn't work unless there is mutual respect, love, and yes, MUTUAL submission

This is such a stupid argument. One person compromising for another doesn't make them submissive. Listen, if you both reach decisions together, you're being partners. This is really obvious. I'm saying this because a lot of you say you're submissive and then say you reach joint decisions and your husband doesn't lead you, you lead each other. You can't be both, that's not how it works.

FutureMrsP - Of course I don't take everything in the Bible 100% seriously. But I do use it as a guide for how I should live my life and treat others. I take the principals and go from there. I am just a human being trying to be Christ - like as much as I can in this very hateful world.

Lori- I have never, and nor will I ever, expect anyone to do what I do or live their life the way that I do. I don't have all the answers and I just do what I feel is right. Doesn't mean it's right for everyone. And I get that. I have never, and nor will I ever, make judgements on people based on their religion or lack thereof.

Jesse's Girl quote: "If you've ever tried to do it on your own as a woman, you'll learn that God didn't create women to be the sole provider or leader of a family."

This is the most asinine statement I've ever heard. Not only am I shocked by the number of women agreeing to these ridiculous ideas of submissiveness but I'm deeply saddened by it. Move forward ladies, not back.

So sheʻs a slave to her husband and is hiding it behind religion?

Who the fuck cares? itʻs a crock of shit fairy tales meant to scare children. Let her be brainwashed and subservient to a man because thatʻs the only way she thinks her marriage will work.

My fiance and I have a very equal relationship based on who is good at what. I'm good at cooking, and he was ok at chopping- he has gotten better at chopping because I suck at it and we wouldn't eat until 10 every night otherwise- LOL! It's with everything. And no one always wins every argument (although he would tell you I always win ;-) )- we talk about it and figure it out or make a comprimise, or maybe if it's totally impossible we flip a coin, or maybe even seek someone else's advice?

I couldn't even attempt being a "submissive"- I think I'd just become some sort of serial killer with all the repression. Every lady in my family is strong-willed, with strong men to match. I have not met a female relative who has not worked full time at some point during a marriage; even my 104 year old grandmother. Even my father told me I should never join the military because I would get discharged- too stong willed. An he thinks pretty much everyone should join - so that's saying something.

^ Whole different worm hole Mrs. King, but I get what you're trying to say.

Shannon- sorry, but that makes no sense. If it's an entirely equal partnership, then why is the man the head of the household? The man and woman are entirely capable of both being the heads of the household.