Candace Cameron Bure /submissive wife

I love BDSM discussions!!!!

Really, I feel the submission is really the one in charge over the dominance. The bottom is really the one that helps write up the contract and determines what they will allow. The Dom/Domme is the one that has the control, but in the end, they are following the rules set up by the submissive.

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Wow - just wow.

Some of the things on here are unbelievable -

@Shannon - To you, being submissive means"willingness to die for the other person" I've seen you using this phrase throughout this post...

Well if that's the case -

Do you think that it is appropriate for physical, sexual and verbal and mental abuse to take place against a woman because she is being submissive?

Do you think that it is appropriate for those women to be dependent upon God to get them out of that situation?

Do you think those people should remain submissive to their abusers?

Oh geez.

I was honestly wanting to bring that subject up way earlier but held my tongue. This is WW. a marriage forum. I was "wondering" what others had to say about how this submissive part would translate to same sex couples. The obvious answer being that different people have different personalities, man or woman so they'd figure it out on their own. What I actually figured might happen is that this thread would implode. And it has.

Please let's just move on with our lives. :face palm:

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LOL ^

I'm dying, I don't know why I find this so funny hahaha

Out of all the posts that stood out and made me want to comment, this was it.

Bravo

Too soon?

You're welcome Champagne. I aim to please my fellow Canadians.

Wowwww no. This whole thing is based on if BOTH people love each other SO MUCH that they are willing to do anything. I say die for he other person because the bible verse says the husband should be willing to die for the wife. A husband who loves his wife that much would never abuse his wife. So no. None if that is ok

A little counter-argument to Ms. Cameron, written by Sister Joan Chittister

http://shriverreport.org/are-women-devalued-by-religions-joan-chittister/

Sidenote: the Shriver Report can be downloaded for free for the next few days. Treat yo self

A quote from Sister Joan's piece that gives some insight into why these discussions are good and why we should care about what other people are doing in their marriages:

"What religion has said about women has long been used to justify what society has done to limit their development. Not only does what our churches, mosques, synagogues, and faith communities teach and do about women become the morality of the land. What they do not say or do on behalf of women condones what becomes the immorality of the land."

And I'm done with my feminist ramblings. I hope everyone has an excellent Monday!!

FMP: (not the Shannon you were looking for, lol, But I'll chime in here): Submission, from a biblical standpoint, doesn't mean staying in an abusive situation and hoping to get out when you die. No ma'am.

Let me put it this way...my future husband waded into a gunfight unarmed to save a fifteen year old girl from getting beat in the middle of the hood...alone. It was a hell of a fight and the girl escaped in the mutual ass-kicking that followed. So I do know that he wouldn't EVER put his hands on me in a way that didn't make me smile. He gets one chance. One. Being submissive to a husband doesn't count (biblically speaking) when your husband is your abuser: he's not treating you as you are supposed to be treated: cherished, beloved and protected above all things.

And on a personal note: I would dispatch him to meet Jesus and they can work it out between themselves...because nobody but NOBODY is putting their hands on me ever again. You want deets, you can PM me.

I'd die for my sister. That doesn't mean I'm submitting to her.

Hmm thought I'd put this out there - I grew up in a household where my mum was submissive to my dad. She did all the cooking and cleaning (even when she worked full time) as it was a 'woman's job' apparently. My dad made all the major decisions, and in any disagreement his was the final voice. It was clear that the hierarchy went dad, mum, kids.

Due to all that, I basically grew up thinking that women are inferior to men (and I'm pretty sure my brothers think that now). It took some decent life experience outside of home, and my wonderful FH to turn that around. So yeah, while I respect that people may choose to live like that (perhaps to a lesser degree) - please think about what you're teaching your sons and daughters. Even if you think there can only be one president, at least let them know that it can also be a female.

Future Mrs P - being submissive to your husband does not mean he is going to be, or in any way allowing him, to be abusive to his wife. Ever. The word submissive here is being taken way out of context. Any of the girls on here who are, or plan to be submissive, are NOT saying their husbands are going to control them.

If you believe that by being submissive wife, you are allowing your husband to control you, than I can see why women are getting heated about it. But being a submissive wife in the Christian terms (And no, I am not saying ALL Christian women believe this, but this is a teaching I have learned and agree with) is part of the partnership all of you are talking about. My FH and I will be equals, but if there comes a time when we can't reach an agreement, or a tough choice needs to be made, I am going to put it into his hands to make the choice for us. By allowing him to make the choices, he knows it's part of his responsibility to do what's best for us as a couple/family

@Jessiegirl you are my new best friend!! lol

This is what I don't understand about the whole thing: if you think your husband will make the best choices for you both, why not just let him make every decision?

Because you don't want to be controlled.

We make decisions together. If we disagree on something, we are going to talk it out, weigh the pros and cons, and reach an agreement together. Sometimes he wins, sometimes I win. It just depends on the situation. He isn't going to get his way automatically if we disagree on something, just because he's the husband and I am the wife.

Nope, because we can work together to make most decisions. But sometimes in a marriage, a choice has to be made that either no one wants to make, or there is a fight about it and can't come to a mutual agreement. Obviously he won't do whatever he wants, he will resonably come to a decision that will be the best for us.

Why can't you guys just do that together?

If a choice has to be made and you guys can't agree, you compromise. There are ton of tough choices people are faced with, and you just make them. It's part of being an adult.

I just don't understand why these tough decisions automatically go to the man because of his gender. I was raised in the Catholic church, so I know the Bible verses you all are referring to, but it just does not mesh at all with my idea of what a healthy relationship is.

This is just MY idea of a healthy relationship, but I'm not judging others for having a different opinion.