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Savvy July 2017

No one wants to officiate our wedding.

Katy, on December 14, 2016 at 1:09 PM

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My Deaf pastor at my church isn't allowed to marry us outside of church because he has NO license to officiate our wedding. Since a week now, I have been contacting ASL pastors/ministers/priests and friends all over in Long Island to find ASL fluent licensed officiant they know that can marry us at...

My Deaf pastor at my church isn't allowed to marry us outside of church because he has NO license to officiate our wedding. Since a week now, I have been contacting ASL pastors/ministers/priests and friends all over in Long Island to find ASL fluent licensed officiant they know that can marry us at a small old private chapel which I have to pay for 700 dollars asap.. I still got no result of ASL officiant anywhere in Long Island.. There is couple other Deaf/hearing ASL pastors from Deaf ministries in Long Island and NYC but they refused to marry us because we require to be a 'member' of ther church. i was like, and also my sisters in Christ were like, WTF? member? What does it have to do with to be a member since you are a believer after all. My church also refused to marry us at my church just because my fiancé is not 'member' of mY church...he is a believer as I am. So it is saying they don't want us to be married as they say fornication is a sin, W T F!!! Don't know what to do.

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  • Laura
    Master July 2017
    Laura ·
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    I'm still confused why you can't have any ordained minister and just an ASL interpreter. It seems like you're creating a lot of unnecessary stress for yourself. And if the issue is that you want to get married in that particular church but they're charging you money - that's very standard. I've talked to a couple friends of various denominations and we all had to "donate" to the church to get married there.

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  • Celia Milton
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    I don't want to come off as being the end line, legal authority on this; that's not my place. If he is ordained legally and has a congregation, he should be fine.

    My best advice would be to ask him about his ordination path and then contact the clerk in Suffolk or Nassau county, whichever place you're going to be married.

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  • K
    Savvy July 2017
    Katy ·
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    Laura,

    I know....if I were a hearing person, I would not have this kind of stress easily in this situation. It is not cool for Deaf people like me to face crossroads and limited to access....hindering our rights. Know what my fiance did say about my church? Fuck them!

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  • AlwaysMs.
    VIP May 2018
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    I think if your pastor's superiors already said no you can't expect that he will defy them no matter whether he legally can do it or not.

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  • K
    Savvy July 2017
    Katy ·
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    Oh ok! Thank you, Celia. Ohhh tonight is Wednesday Deaf Bible Study at my church where my pastor teaches. I am going to check in on him and show him some of the comments answered here. I will be damned if things not clears up with them ignorant peoples at my church.

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  • StarFromIHJ
    Master August 2016
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    I don't want to come off as rude, but is he ordained? Everyone I know who became a pastor or priest went to school for theology.

    Also, some churches don't allow you to get married outside the church. As a Catholic, I needed a church wedding. It was around $700 on LI!

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  • Nonna T
    Master April 2014
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    This may be off topic Katy, but I am going to suggest softening your stance a bit. Instead of coming in with both guns blazing, insisting and calling people ignorant and such, try explaining your situation and asking (not demanding) what can be done to help you.

    When someone comes to my office asking for help, I will do everything in my power to move heaven and earth. Those who are pushy and demanding get a blank stare followed by a less than magnanimous effort. Hope everything works out for you!

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  • Kira
    Super March 2017
    Kira ·
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    Try April Gismondi from Church of Ancient Ways. Her crew are fluent in many languages.

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  • Kira
    Super March 2017
    Kira ·
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    @gymrat where are you getting married?! It's so cool to see other Long Island brides!

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  • K
    Savvy July 2017
    Katy ·
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    Nonna T,

    Yes, they are ignorants for bullying on LGBT and turn them away from the church while they welcome unmarried couples with children, porn addict, registered sex offender, liars, druggie, mental illness that behaves badly, etc. they kicked my friend out right after they found out from rumor outside the church that shes lesbian...she had served my church for 20 years until they pried into her private life from a rumor somehwere else, she was trying to defend herself, asking who told you and all that....they pushed her to leave the church. Shes really heartbroken and hurt. It traumatizes her after the church assisant spent time the last months bullying and picking on her just because of her sexual orientation.

    Again, if I were hearing, I would not be here in the first place.

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  • StarFromIHJ
    Master August 2016
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    What sect of Christian are you? Is it possible to go into a local Parish of said sect, even if they aren't deaf, and ask them for one they'd recommend. It seems the Parish you've been visiting not longer aligns with your beliefs. Maybe another one can help.

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  • JoRocka
    Master September 2016
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    I'm sorry you're having troubles- but It's rude AF of you to assume that the rest of us have no problems simply because we can hear.

    Almost EVERY.SINGLE.BRIDE.AND.GROOM.HERE has had their fair share of troubles.

    Each person has to face their own set of challenges. I get that being deaf is difficult. But perhaps stop playing the martyr here and work on a solution.

    But it's a slap in the face to the community to say "well I wouldn't be here if I didn't have these problems"

    I'm not going to play the "whose got it worse" problem- but just because you have a problem doesn't mean someone else's problems do not exist- or aren't relevant. That's rude and selfish.

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  • Julie
    Devoted March 2017
    Julie ·
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    If your church treated your friend like that and has hate towards the groups you mentioned why do you go there? Why would be associated with that at all?

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  • StarFromIHJ
    Master August 2016
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    I'll echo everyone else's suggestions, call Rev. April. She married friends of mine and was fabulous!

    Also, your chapel offers Ministers for a fee. E-mail them!

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  • Muffinbutton
    Super August 2017
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    I don't have any helpful advice. I just want to say I'm sorry you're having such a tough time.

    And that you're right, you likely would not be having such a tough time if you were hearing. It sucks that you're options are so limited and it could end up costing you more simply because you're deaf.

    Are there any deaf groups you could reach out to on Facebook or social media? I would do some searching, I'm sure others have gone through this before and might be able to help.

    ETA: I just did a quick google search and there is a group called "Long Island New York Deaf." Maybe try posting there.

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  • Kathryn
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    Jumping in to say that my home church has an interpreter for people who are deaf, even though we are by large population a hearing church. It might not hurt to just go in to a few hearing churches in your area and see what your options are! You might be surprised ! Good luck.

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  • Punkin Beer
    Master October 2017
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    OP's whole attitude stinks. I find myself unsympathetic as the story unfolds....

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  • K
    Savvy July 2017
    Katy ·
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    Muffinbutton,

    Sorry, I'd rather keep my location and information private...not gonna post on Facebook publicly over there. We don't need to deal with deaf stalkers anymore... we had enough of that.....we been thru three years of hell from that crazy stalker....she is watching us trying to sabotage our wedding.

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  • JoRocka
    Master September 2016
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    Deaf stalkers?

    okay.

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  • StarFromIHJ
    Master August 2016
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    Can you email local churches? They may have interpreters.

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