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Marriage Advice / Sanity check needed. Please help!

Bob, on May 25, 2024 at 3:20 PM Posted in Family and Relationships 0 5


My wife and I have been married 15 years, but the last 10 have been absolutely brutal (will get into that in a second).

We have 3 young children, all girls – our oldest about to become a teen, our youngest 7.

After our first child was born, my wife and I started sleeping in separate bedrooms and have until this day (10 years). This is the soonest I can remember things going in the wrong direction.

Since then, my wife has been slowly isolating herself from me. I am trying to figure out whether we are better off separating/divorcing.

Fast forward to today, here’s a quick rundown of our life:

- We live in completely separate areas of the house

- I am not allowed in the kitchen/family room area (this is her area) unless I want to get yelled at. - I should note my wife has serious OCD and so she is very anal about people in her space.

- Whenever we are walking through the house, if we happen to cross paths she will stop and practically run the other direction. Sometimes in disgust that I was there, that I got in her way, because she was so “busy”.

- My wife and I never talk face to face. We talk on the phone every couple days, even when we are in the same house. We went from being best of friends, to barely being friends.

- We never spend time together as a family, except a once a year vacation for a week. We don’t eat dinner together each night, in fact I can count probably a handful of times per year we actually have a meal together. Instead, we each do things with the kids on our own. That wasn’t even planned out or discussed, its just how it sort of is, because Im working around what she wants or does not want to do.

- When it comes to dinner each night, I always felt that eating dinner together was important, but she has refused to do it and doesn’t believe in it. So, she makes the kids dinner, and then they come upstairs and I sit and talk together with them as they eat. She stays downstairs on her own accord - she is always welcome to join. Again, no discussion about this, its just how it is.

- The only real time I spend with her is in occasional social settings where we go out with other couples that are our friends, where we are always drinking, pretty heavily. It’s literally like 90% of the time I see her face.

- If she and I go out together just us and start conversing, it very quickly turns into heated and very painful arguments about the kids, or other marital issues.


- We have a sexless marriage, it’s been at least 5 years since we had sex and probably 5 times for sure in the last 10 years. Not just that, she doesn’t want to touch, hold hands, hug, etc.


- we tried counseling 2 years ago, I basically forced it on us, trying to resolve the situation. She never admitted her OCD to the therapist and blamed most of the relationship issues on me, that I yelled at her too much. I tried to explain that the only reason I would ever yell was when she was harassing me so much to the point where I would completely blow up and defend my position as a husband, provider, and father. It felt completely outlandish to me that she would find ways to harass me when I provided a life for her, basically she never had to work past 30 years old, never had to work once we got pregnant with our first, and that continues to this day.


- a couple years ago, she decided she wanted to go back to school to get her masters, my read on this was that she was tired of being a mom and wanted something for herself. I had and have empathy for this, so I supported her on this. Obviously, the financial burden on that is on me. I should also mention our 3 daughters all go to expensive private school.


- I recently had an enormous financial outcome at work that I have been working on for years. It was extremely difficult. After it happened, it should have been a joyous occasion (she is now financially set for the rest of her life by a mile EVEN IF we divorce), but it was more pain. I had to ask for a hug to celebrate the moment. We went out and she found a way to make me feel like crap. Honestly, this was the straw that broke the camels back, but I will go on. And no, I did not have a pre-nup, but I actually dont care so this is a non-issue.


- the craziest part about all of this is that my wife acts as if this life is totally normal, no big problems going on. She grew up in a strict catholic household where you dont get divorced.


- My wife and I do not audibly fight in the house, because we don’t really talk anyways. Whenever we talk on the phone (always to discuss family business matters like the kids, schedules or whatever) we do not fight. But I also think its because I’ve given up, and she clearly did a long time ago, so there’s no point in addressing topics that are going to result in a fight. That’s why they bubble up and come out when we drink.


- I should also mention my wife is gorgeous, went to private school growing up, and I only say that because it plays into the psychology of her life. She and I got married 2 years after she graduated college. Dare I say, she’s had it pretty easy compared to other women out there.


- There has been no cheating from either of us, and I dont suspect she is cheating. She outwardly claims now that she is more “asexual” when this was definitely not the case when we met.

- when I've asked her why she's like this, we cant live this way, etc. which I have done FOR YEARS she says she is "so overwhelmed" with all her mom duties. And now she added school back into it. But the issues were all there prior to starting school again.

- how do I feel? I am incredibly lonely. I lost my best friend, and I dont really even feel that I have a friend in my wife that I can count on, that will be there for me if something bad happened. It’s a terrible feeling. I also have nobody to talk to about this, because I cant tell any close friends or family as that would spread drama in our community which I am not going to do. I have recently sought out counseling.


So after reading this, you are probably like what the hell are you doing, why are you staying in this relationship. Or maybe not. There is a part of me that is sympathetic to the fact that my wife has 3 daughters, and that is a bigger responsibility for her than it is for me, and it is that hard to be a mother without a job. I could be totally off on that, but it’s something I have in my head.

The only reason I am here still is because of the kids. My little girls. I dont want to break up the family unit while they are so young. I have no idea what they think. That said, they are not living in a house with a bunch of yelling and fighting. They are growing up in this weird situation where there is minimal time together as a family, for whatever reason, but they haven't known anything different.

And so here’s where the sanity check comes in. I would love anyone’s opinion – particularly those of you that are divorced. Especially if you got divorced over a lot less than this.

I feel like my wife literally divorced me already in every way. We’re roommates still living with our kids.

Anyways, really struggling with this, trying to figure out what I should do. Really appreciate any help or advice.

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Latest activity by Helen, on June 10, 2024 at 7:30 PM
  • Michelle
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    Michelle ·
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    Despite what some people say, staying together for the kids when you are miserable as a spouse doesn’t benefit them because they feed off of the negativity that you and your partner radiate towards each other. It doesn’t have to get to the yelling stage for them to experience the detrimental effects that are prevented by getting a divorce and sharing custody. If you haven’t already, have you talked to a therapist who specializes in relationships? They can give you better feedback. Talk to the therapist first and then if you honestly feel that you cannot work out your issues with your wife, then divorce may be the best option. It’s never pleasant but reality is that sometimes people are not a good match past the honeymoon phase of the relationship and it is what it is. But do not stay there while you are miserable and think that you are helping the kids by staying. They are feeding off the stress every minute.
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    This is a horrible environment for your kids. It sounds very obvious that your marriage has been over for a while, but to be living completely separate lives under the same roof with three kids is not showing them a healthy familial life. If therapy isn't an option, which, it sounds way beyond that point. I would speak openly to your wife about getting a divorce and how it will benefit your kids.

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    I agree that your wife has essentially divorced you already but for the legalities and the address. Make no mistake, your girls are absorbing the dynamics of the way you and your wife interact and internalizing it all. Do you really want them to grow up thinking any of this is normal? I'd seek individual counseling at this time because I really don't think you are doing your children any favors to continue this charade.

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  • Lisa
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    There doesn't have to be public yelling and fighting in order for someone to sense that things aren't good between you and your wife. Your children certainly see what's going on, and they may grow up with unhealthy ideas of what is considered normal in a relationship based on what they see in your relationship. Therapy for yourself would be a great place to start in figuring out where to go from here, as well as having an honest discussion with your wife about divorce.
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  • Helen
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    I second the suggestion of finding therapy for yourself first, and working on personal growth.


    And honestly, there are a lot of red flags for me in your post. I am previously divorced (my decision) and he had many the same complaints that you do. We also lived in separate rooms. I sometimes didn't see him for a week at a time because of work schedules. I talked with him by texting rather than face to face even in the same apartment. I avoided spending time with him, sex, hugs, etc. Why? Because I was not comfortable around him. I didn't feel safe around him. He was abusive and controlling. *By the way, I also have OCD, which is a form of anxiety, and is strongly exacerbated by trauma. It is much more manageable when you feel safe.
    Your paragraph about going to counseling together is one of the biggest red flags. If she is saying that the problems in your marriage are because you are yelling too much, and you are even admitting that you blow up at her. My ex also blamed his angry outbursts on me, saying that I provoked him. You can choose not to blow up at her. When you do yell at her, you are reinforcing that you aren't a safe person and she can't be comfortable around you. Why would she want to be close/intimate/sexual with someone she doesn't feel safe around? Emotional distance and shutting down is a coping/survival method when someone is in a painful and unsafe situation that they can't escape.
    My ex also tried to force me into couples counseling. Please, please, please don't do that. Go to counseling alone with an open mind, and willing to work on yourself. Be willing to truly look at your part in any marriage struggles, and not blame any of your actions on her. Your interactions should be "how do I learn to control my anger?" and not "what can I do to get her to have sex with me/hug me/etc.?"
    I know this isn't what you want to hear, but you need to, and your wife needs you to.
    Fast forward to my relationship with my soon-to-be husband.... When he has hurt me, he apologizes, acknowledges that he has hurt me *without* blaming me, making excuses or trying to justify his behavior. He acknowledges that I'm right to be hurt and not want to feel close with him in that moment, and may never feel the same again. And he gives me as much space as needed and as much time as needed to heal. And he doesn't do it begrudgingly or make me feel bad about it! AND, an absolutely crucial point, he changes whatever it was that hurt me.
    Look hard at yourself. When is the last time you genuinely did something for her good? Without the expectation (or pressure) of anything in return (including gratitude)? If you are doing something for her to get a certain response or reaction, you're being controlling and you are doing it for yourself, not for her.
    I understand this isn't what you wanted to hear. BUT you asked for advice. So if what you truly wanted was advice (not just validation), then please consider the things I've said.

    I'm sorry for the long post but my heart goes out to you and your wife and girls. I wish for the best for you all. A painful marriage is...well, painful. And it's not healthy for the kids either, even when there's no yelling.

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