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Just Said Yes November 2017

Wedding after secretly married for three years

Bethany, on July 9, 2018 at 12:12 AM Posted in Etiquette and Advice 0 75
I need some advice.
My best friend, who has been my best friend since school, has given me information that has let me flabbergasted and I'm honestly not sure how to proceed. I'll do my best to summarize. Early January this year she called me and sent me pictures of her ring, telling me that her boyfriend had proposed. I was thrilled for her. The next months have been filled with wedding planning for September, her asking me to be a bridesmaid, etc. Well about two weeks ago she told me that they have actually been married for three years. Apparently she was being removed from her parents' insurance and they married to get her on his insurance (he's military.) She never changed her last name or told anyone. The only other people that know are each of their parents (and they were told well after the fact as well.) I initially told her that I was a little hurt that she hadn't told me for three years but that was about as far as it went. The more I have thought about it the more upset and bothered I have become. Not because she didn't tell me for three years, I could get past that. But the fact that all of this is a LIE. She is planning and has her parents paying for an elaborate and expensive "wedding". The location for the ceremony alone is thousands of dollars. She has a registry; or as she said a month ago a "chance to get new stuff." None of the guests know, even one of the other bridesmaids doesn't know. I'm not attempting to shame her for getting married before, I would have been happy for her then. Getting married primarily for insurance is not my preference but to each their own. And if this was just a celebration I could understand. But no, it is all a sham. She is pretending to get married to her husband of three years, expects gifts, is having the charade of a lifetime and it's all a big secret. I have barely talked to her since she told me because I don't know what to say. I don't want to be ugly to her, but I am truly bothered. I am very uncomfortable with dishonesty and with this entire ordeal. I'm to order and pay for my bridesmaid dress and whatnot. I understand; that is standard. Texting me about her stress of wedding planning, all the pictures of what veil to wear, picking out the caterer...I just can't. How she convinced her parents to pay for it is beyond me. She said they didn't take the news of the secret marriage well initially. Am I wrong for feeling mislead and uncomfortable (and a bit upset) with the whole situation? I don't want to be a bridesmaid anymore. I feel like this is a big case of wanting to have your cake and eat it too.
Thank you all in advance!

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Latest activity by Gloria, on November 20, 2024 at 9:29 PM
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    Beginner October 2018
    Mykel ·
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    WOW!!! Is literally what came to mind after reading this. I would feel the same way you would. Not wrong for feeling mislead or uncomfortable. I'd be upset too. If you don't want to be a bridesmaid anymore and feel that strongly about it than you shouldn't do it. But you take the chance of your friendship possibly being over. It really depends on how each of you feel.

    I have no idea how I'd react in this situation. If you don't speak to her you may wind up drinking at the wedding and all of this coming out. Are you guys close enough to have a heart to heart about your feelings? You should really speak with her
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  • Mrs.D
    Devoted August 2018
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    Half way through reading this I thought to myself “wow if it were me I’d politely step down as a bridesmaid!” If your not comfortable with it don’t do it!!! I’d still attend but tell her you can’t in good Conscience or apart of this scam. Which to me that’s what it is she just wants things. She should have told everyone and just renewed their vows! In all honesty my fiancé and I are getting married in 40 days. Originally it was 2 years ago. And we decided to move it up and do something small and cheaper. In 5 or 10 years we will renew our vows and have the bigger wedding that I wanted this time around. I feel like she needs to come clean and just announce they are renewing their vows!
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  • Caytlyn
    Legend November 2019
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    I'm sorry you're going through this, but I'm actually SO SO SO glad that you decided to post about it here. Constantly, at least once a week or so, someone comes to WW discussing their decision to secretly get married before the wedding. They are almost always told that it is hurtful to their loved ones. It's great to have your point of view here.

    I completely understand how it's bothersome to witness what she's doing. I personally wouldn't want to be the one to "out" her to everyone else, and it doesn't seem like that's what you want to do either. I would have a heart to heart with her and let her know that you're really happy to celebrate her marriage, but it's only right for her to be honest with the rest of her guests. Most friends and family would be glad to celebrate with them, if only they know the truth up front. It will likely come out eventually and there will be a lot of their closest friends and family members that will feel deceived and hurt. Once you've given her your point of view, it's up to her and her husband to make the right decision. I absolutely wouldn't want to be a part of the show that they're putting on and I don't think that she should blame you for that, but it doesn't seem that she's truly all that worried about how others feel. Be prepared for this friendship to end if/when you tell her you no longer want to be a part of their "wedding."

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  • Kay
    Super November 2018
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    My reaction is wow to you and @Mykel for your reaction to all of this. Your friend clearly got married as a technicality to get health insurance, not for love, not because they were ready and it basically was an arrangement. You can agree or disagree all you want to the sanctity of marriage and feel like she disrespected that sanctity but either way, she clearly did not feel married nor did she get a real proposal or wedding...she had a practicality discussion...oh so romantic. So now her and her partner have decided to make a TRUE lifetime commitment to each other and for her, it sounds like, she's getting married for the first time and she is incredibly excited about it. Maybe she didn't want to share it with you because she didn't want to make a big deal about a fake marriage and/or make her feel more married than she was or maybe because she knew you would judge her...who knows! Either way, I don't think any of this equals her never getting to have a day where she feels special...stand next to the man she loves and profess her love and lifetime commitment in front of their friends and family and nor do I think she needs to tell everyone or you tell everyone her secret and take away from her real wedding day all because the health care system in this country sucks (assuming this is US based) and if she got ill or hurt she could go into financial ruin. If I was in your friends position I may have done the same...from the insurance to planning a real wedding and as a friend, you should be supportive instead of judgmental and realize this is an exciting and special time for her and just because a paper was signed it does not mean she was emotionally married.

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  • Sarah
    Expert November 2018
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    I think the issue is that she’s lying. If she were calling it a celebration of marriage or something similar it would be different. But she’s having people pay money to attend her wedding that is t even a wedding. I think she deserves a day to feel special and feel like a bride. Just as I do with brides who are renewing their vows. They deserve to feel special on that day as well. But lying about it is incredibly rude and selfish
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  • muriel
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    I would step down as a bridesmaid because I would not be party to deceiving everyone at the wedding. There's absolutely noting wrong with having an early wedding, particularly if one of you is in the military and perhaps being deployed or needing to add your FI to your insurance. The wrong part is lying about it. They can have a vow renewal and a reception without deceiving everyone close to them.


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  • Caytlyn
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    It isn't a "fake marriage." She signed a marriage certificate. She's married.

    While I agree that our healthcare system is a monstrosity, she still chose to get married to solve her problem. The issue here isn't whether or not she's really married, it's that she is lying to people. Most people, if they knew the circumstances, would still happily attend the celebration. You can't get married if you're already married, unless you plan to get divorced somewhere in between. If you're not getting married, that means that you can't invite people to a wedding. Because you aren't having one. You CAN announce that you got married in a private ceremony in (insert month and year) and invite your friends and family to come celebrate your union. You can have the pretty white dress, the wedding party, the catering, and even the vows, but you can't have a wedding.

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    Did she have an engagement ring 3 years ago? If her “husband” proposed to her only in January, then she might have never felt like she was actually married to him 3 years ago. It’s like they signed some papers for insurance but they weren’t ever truly married emotionally to each other. And that’s why this wedding now is big deal to her, it’s not a renewal of vows because she was never proposed to originally. All they did was sign some papers for insurance. So technically they were “married” but not really. Does this make sense? I think if I were in your friend’s position and had to get married for technical reasons, it wouldn’t be such a big deal to me that I would have to let the whole world know. Especially if there weren’t any emotional feelings attached to it. With the proposal and ring in January, it would feel like I’m actually engaged and going to get married for real. It wouldn’t feel like a vow renewal. And if I were your friend, I wouldn’t feel obligated to tell everyone my business. To me and my husband, it’s our true wedding and us getting married FOR REAL, not just papers for insurance. If you are her true friend, you should be happy for her and support her and understand where she’s coming from and how she feels. Maybe that’s why her parents are willing to pay for the wedding. To her and her parents, this is not a vow renewal. It’s an actual wedding for two people who love each other and want to vow to love each other forever in front of family and friends. They didn’t do that before, all they did was sign some papers with no ring no public commitment no emotional attachment. So in their perspective, it’s not a vow renewal, it’s an actual wedding. Does this make sense? I don’t understand why you or anyone would be so judgemental when you don’t even know the whole story, you dont know if they ever felt like they were really married and you shouldn’t expect them to share private details of their lives with all the guests and call their wedding a vow renewal when in reality to them, it’s not a vow renewal it’s their first wedding. Let them live their lives and be happy for them.
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    Unless she’s going around telling you guys to keep it top secret 🤷🏻‍♀️ If it has to be such a huge secret then that’s kind of weird and changes my perspective 😥 If it’s not a big secret and everyone knows now but they’re still calling it their wedding then it’s fine imo. If for some reason she doesn’t want anyone to know and still pretending as if nothing happened 3 years ago, then that’s just strange for her to do that 😐
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  • Sarah Katreen
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    I totally get being upset. I would be too. After being injured myself, though, and figuring out how to handle that with my fiance, I get it. We considered marrying earlier than we had planned in order to get me on her insurance before finding out we could add me at a higher cost as a domestic partner. I am so glad we are marrying as planned and that I am now under her insurance. But that one cut tendon in a finger came with a $15,000 surgery and therapy bill. So I don't agree with the lying but I personally understand the need for insurance.
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    I think if it's such a big deal for you and you honestly can't look past it drop out as a bridesmaid just know it may ruin the friendship. Personally I wouldn't let it bother me, it's their lie, their marriage I'd celebrate with them and hope I was never in the situation to feel the need to lie about being married.
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    First of all you may not know everything that was going on with her 3 years ago. Perhaps she was having health issues and needed insurance and she had no other choice to do what she did. She made a decision based on her personal situation at the time. It’s not up to you to agree or disagree with that decision. You also made a comment about her parents paying for the wedding. Why does it matter if they are paying. Obviously her parents know she is already married but they want to this for their daughter. Let her have the celebration she wishes to have. If you honestly feel you cannot be a bridesmaid then speak to her and step down. I do understand your feelings and I would be hurt that she didn’t tell you before this but then again you don’t know everything that was going on at the time. You may not agree with her having a big wedding and wanting all the things that go with it to include the shower, bachelorette etc. but if this is what she wants I see no reason why she can’t have it.!our healthcare is horrible and more and more people are doing exactly what she is because of it. Only you can decide if this news offends you so much that you donkot wish to be in the wedding. If it truly does then speak to her, explain your point of view, and go from there. Good luck!
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  • OG Gretchen
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    "She doesn't feel married" "She isn't emotionally married"... These are foolish. If you don't feel married after having a legal marriage ceremony, then you are confusing a party with a marriage. I eloped, I gave up the chance to have parties and showers. I didn't pretend I didn't elope so I could still have parties thrown for me. It's fine to have a celebration later, but to purposely lie and say you are not married when you are because you want more gifts is gross. People will still celebrate with you if you tell them the truth. If they find out you are lying, they may not. I'm going to have a baby, not tell anyone, and then pretend to be pregnant 3 years later to have a baby shower and not tell anyone the baby is already 3.

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  • MrsV1027
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    I'm really hoping all of the women who keep posting about secretly eloping and then having the ceremony without telling people the truth are reading this post. People do get upset over it. Clearly.

    I don't get why people feel the need to lie about it. We got engaged on 12/2/17, 12/24/17 we booked our venue, early January we ordered and sent out invites for our 10/27/18 wedding and then eloped on 2/16/18. We told EVERYONE that we were legally married. Why did we do this? Same as your friend. Insurance. Some of the ladies here may think it's ridiculous to do it for insurance but heath care without it in America is insane and we make too much to get financial assistance had something happened to him. It was not ideal but his job has him as a contractor which does not come with benefits. Would we have preferred to not do it this way? Of course. But we were open and honest with everyone and they are all just as excited to come to our ceremony in Vegas in the fall. Apparently this is actually how it's done where his family is from. You have the ceremony with the state to legalize the marriage and then you have the wedding ceremony with the family at a later date. Everyone knows it's basically a vow renewal. We will not be having any showers or that sort of thing but we weren't going to have them anyways.

    I get that your friend lied to you and you are upset about that but please try to realize that she did what she did for her own reasons. All you can do now is be her friend and support her and let her have the big day she missed out on because this country makes it ridiculous to get affordable health care.


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  • OG Gretchen
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    I think everyone understands the insurance thing, it's the elaborate lies and excuse making that they don't get. No matter how many times people say how it makes people feel, someone thinks their situation is different and special and it's ok for them to lie because of it. You told everyone, that's fine. I had a friend who had to do the same. They had a ceremony and party later. Nobody cared, we knew why they got married beforehand.

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    She says right in her post, her friend doesn’t want anyone else other than OP to know........so yes they’re keeping it top secret. No one other than the parents and OP know..

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  • The Nuptials
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    I would 100% step down and tell her why, understanding that friendship would be over and I would be fine with that. She can come up with some other lie to tell people why I stepped down. No way would I spend money on a bridesmaids dress for this. Insurance is costly yes, then marry, and tell
    people it is more than just signing a few papers, please!
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    As far as the insurance thing goes, I understand it. I simply stated that it is not my personal preference but to each their own. That does not mean that I am not happy for her or that I don't think she deserves to be able to celebrate. My primary issue is the fact that she is pretending that it never happened and that it's all top secret. She stated that her husband's mother let it slip to another family member "because she has a big mouth." She requested that I tell no one. They live and are having the wedding two states away from where I live and farther than that for almost everyone else who will be in attendance. The lying and secrecy is what I have a problem with. She doesn't want anyone to know and wants people to give her presents. I have no doubt that many people would still celebrate with her and give her a gift if they knew the truth, but her "chance to get new stuff" stipulated by the big secret bothers me.
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  • needmorewine
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    She absolutely had a real proposal and wedding. The agreement to get married was the proposal - a proposal doesn’t require a ring or some big production to post on social media for attention and likes, it is simply the agreement to get married. The legal wedding was the real wedding. The big party isn’t required in order to be married. This is reality, her feelings about what makes a proposal or wedding don’t change the reality that she is married. This attitude that being legally married is good enough to take advantage of the benefits it provides but not good enough to consider yourself married is disgusting. Quite frankly this person sounds like someone who cares more about getting a party, attention, and presents than they do about actually being married.
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  • Sara
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    For all those commenting with emotions, just stop. Her actual marriage & wedding was 3 years ago. Period. Ask the government and they'll agree. That's the emotionless facts here. It doesn't matter that there was no celebration. It doesn't matter if there were rings involved or not. You don't have to have any of those things to be legally married. The issue here is not that this girl wants a party to celebrate 3 years after the fact. The issue here is that she has been LYING about this for 3 years, and expects her family and the OP to remain silent and complicit with this LIE, because people might be upset they've been LIED to and she might not get as much stuff.

    To the OP, I'd sit down and talk about how this has made you feel and how you aren't comfortable with the idea of lying to everyone. Most people would still want to celebrate with her if they had known the truth all along. Basically everything you've said here. Then, depending on the conversation, decide if you want to continue as a part of the wedding.

    To anyone considering eloping in secret, do it. Just don't lie about it afterwards. Especially not to those closest to you. It obviously causes a lot more hurt and headache than it's worth in the long run.
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