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May be an unpopular opinion here but i need to vent about cuomo

on February 24, 2021 at 8:01 AM Posted in New York Planning 0 35
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So as a lot of people may know, here in NY, Cuomo has given the green light to weddings of 150 or 50 percent capacity starting March 15. I said this may be an unpopular opinion, because I’m not happy about this. I personally think it is way too soon for NY. Our state, though numbers and cases have dropped, we still have one of the highest infection rates in the country. Also vaccine rollouts are still early. I am nervous that these weddings could potentially become super-spreaders which he will then shut everything down again and add on more restrictions to the weddings and events in the upcoming months. I think 150 is a huge leap from 50. That was the max any wedding could be up until now. I know there are couples who may really be happy about it and I understand they want their dream weddings I just can’t shake this feeling that it’s too soon. And the fact that he decided this based on an experiment they tried with a sporting event that allowed thousands of ppl to attend live with negative tests results and distanced seating. The issue with this is, at a game you stay in one seat all night at a wedding you move around, you travel from one space to the next, it’s a happy occasion, people want to hug and give kisses, alcohol is being served and inhibitions start to slip away. Personally I feel a slow increase would have been better. If the max we’ve ever had was 50 then increase to 60 if 60 with the restrictions goes well increase the next month to 70-75. I am happy cuomo is finally showing an interest in helping the wedding industry out after nearly a year of vendors figuring it out for themselves, I just don’t know if it’s too much too soon. NY took the hardest hit last spring and then over the holidays was bad and we are finally seeing trends fall. I’d hate to see them rise back up. Personally, I am keeping my guest list at 46 for many reasons, one is I’ve actually fallen in love with the idea of an intimate wedding and the perks of having one, everyone in attendance has spent time with the two of us as a couple on many occasions. My second most recent reason is if the weddings in March and April do turn into super spreaders, restrictions will come back with a vengeance and I don’t want to increase my list only to call all those added ppl to cancel. One of the reasons fh and I reduced so early was to avoid inviting than univiting. We knew 50 was the highest our state has ever gone so we chose to stay right below it and pray we could have them all come. What are your thoughts on cuomo’s 150 weddings starting March? Do you think it’s too soon? Or do you think all will be fine? Anyone on the fence?

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Latest activity by Gloria, on February 24, 2021 at 2:13 PM
  • Alyssa
    Devoted October 2023
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    So I live in WNY/Buffalo area.
    When I toured my venue a few weeks back and asked about COVID clause she told me how Cuomo was allowing 150 people. My jaw hit the floor. How did we go from all these "yellow/orange zones" and microclusters, bars and gyms can't be open. And a few months later we can just allow 150 people who (will not abide strictly to mask rules because "it ruins wedding photos 🙄) into a venue space? I know all the sections of NY are different but it took me weeks of hours upon hours of refreshing 5 different vaccination pages in order to get one and I'm a nurse! I'm in group 1B. This area is running out of vaccines I drove two counties over to get one.

    I hope we will all be fine. I hope I am just overly cautious after everything I've seen, but I think he's ridiculous and just afraid of being sued/hated even more/ possibly losing his job.
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  • Expert September 2021
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    I get (ish) your worry - but I will say, max capacities and travel restrictions are being lifted in a lot of places. We all just watched the Super Bowl and that in itself should speak volumes. If I go to Target, I'm often times shoulder to shoulder with other shoppers because theres not really a cap on how many people they are allowing in. I think if we are allowing it some places, it should be allowed during a wedding. That's just my opinion! I HATE seeing fathers not being able to go see their baby's ultrasound or families not being able to see loved ones in the hospital, but we can gather for football games and other random events - theres just no constancy. So personally, I'm happy that states are slowly starting to lift those capacity rules.

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  • Shirley
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    I don't think it's a minute too soon. The emergency is over. We had a period of serious uncertainty and instability with a real threat of overloaded hospitals and a high death rate last spring. I worked in city government at that time, and I will never forget the panic. That threat is no longer there, and it is long past time that the government adjust. We flattened the curve as much as we could and built up stores of medical equipment. It's now time to open up.


    If yoy are high risk, take precautions accordingly. If you are not, try to do things to stay healthy and strengthen your immune system. Of course don't lick subway poles. But life has to go on. It just has to. Covid is with us forever, just like the flu. We need to figure out a way to cope with it like we cope with the flu (which kills 60-80k people a year and that's with a vaccine and public health announcements and centuries of experience treating it).
    No more shut downs. Let's start living again.
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  • Expert September 2021
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    I could not agree more with this entire comment!

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    Just Said Yes August 2014
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    To be fair, the Super Bowl wasn't packed - 2 thirds of the audience were cardboard cutouts of people (Google it - many articles and journalists reported on this). I just don't want there being a false belief out there about crowds during covid. I know a lot of people were mad about the crowds and didn't know they were mostly cardboard.


    With the way the human eye works, seeing real and cardboard people simultaneously is an optical illusion that makes us think there are more people than there are. From far away, it looked like a full crowd. Closeups showed the cardboard more clearly.
    With that being said, I agree with OP about Cuomo. I'm not in NYC, but I see it in other parts of the US too. I'm also concerned that a big NY wedding could be a super spreader and then we're right back to where we've been. The news has stories all the time about these super spreader weddings, so idk why this keeps happening. Ugh.
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  • Expert September 2021
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    22,000 people attended the super bowl this year.

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  • Ava
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    I completely agree. I think it is too soon. Six months from now, it may be a completely different situation with vaccines rolling out. But right now, where we are with the virus, it seems like jumping the gun. I fear we will lose the progress we are making and backslide. I understand opening and expanding in areas where you can have a tightly controlled environment. However, weddings aren’t it! When you start allowing 150 person weddings, those people are not going to follow any sort of social distancing and masking precautions. These have all the potential in the world to become super spreader events. The finish line is finally in sight! We’ve come this far, I don’t understand why we are going to jeopardize everything now that we’re so close to the end 🤦🏼‍♀️
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  • Ava
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    Correct. Which was only 30% of the outdoor venue’s capacity. And cardboard cut outs were placed between people to social distance them. Nowhere near comparable to packing 150 people into an indoor venue without masks or social distancing.
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  • Mrs. Spring
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    I think it's okay. I don't have an issue with it. People should have the choice to be safe or unsafe. For those, including me, who still feel unsafe, we can stay at home. I hate wearing masks bc it gives me acne so I stay at home every day to keep others comfortable. I maybe go out 120 minutes per week if that!



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    Yep! 22,000 people with 30,000 cardboard cut-outs. Prob should've been even less humans (imo). But yeah, I wish that there was more consistency. Banning one large event should mean all large events are banned. At least it wouldn't be so confusing! OP, to answer your question, yes I think it's too soon for *large* weddings this spring. Smaller < 50 ppl gatherings, sure. But I'm afraid Cuomo is putting us in a vicious cycle of spikes of incoming cases.
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  • Expert September 2021
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    The percentage of the capacity isn't really relevant when you have 22,000 people hanging out at a football game - cheering, hugging, eating, drinking etc.

    If that's allowed, why should weddings be different?

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  • Shirley
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    I'm curious why you think the finish line is in sight. No vaccine manufacturer or public health expert is predicting that the vaccine will eradicate covid, just that it will make it less deadly to the person who gets it for some period of time, given no mutations.
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  • Alyssa
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    I'm just going to point out cuomo allowed people at the BILLS game not the Superbowl. The bills game had just under 7000 fans. And they were all seated socially distanced with no cardboard cut outs.


    However as far as the end being in sight, that I don't see. As someone who works in healthcare facility we still have staff testing positive and being sent home which then makes all patients get tested that were in contact so the numbers jump. Once we are all fully vaccinated I do think the end will be in sight. Until then I'm not getting my hopes up
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  • Ava
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    Common sense shows that capacity is 100% relevant. When you pack a room to capacity there is no room to properly social distance. When you only fill a room to partial capacity, there is plenty of room to social distance and not directly share air and aerosolized particulates. Add on top of that the fact that this was an outdoor venue, which lessons the chance of spreading a virus even more. And add on top of that the fact that people were forced by the cardboard cut outs to social distance. 22,000 people sitting outside socially distance from one another is actually a lot safer than 150 people packed into a room at capacity not social distancing or wearing masks.
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  • Ava
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    I should elaborate. I don’t mean the end of the virus is in sight. I meant the end of the pandemic is in sight. I don’t think the virus will be eradicated anytime soon, if ever at all. However, once the vaccine is readily available and the majority of the population is vaccinated, we will be able to resume “Life as normal”; and this virus will likely be regarded like the flu.
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    If everyone wore masks or no entry , except while unrelated groups were widely spread apart eating and drinking, in a big enough space, it is a reasonable size. Given even a few couples who don't give a hoot about anyone else, and irresponsibly say it is okay to do what they feel, it will be a disaster. We would not have the drug problem, and AIDS problem, and drunken driving injuries and deaths, if people all put being safe and responsible as priorities. Hosts need to ensure people follow masking and other safety precautions. Think about serving a max of 3-4 alcoholic drinks, and none during dinner, or other things to make sure people are not drinking and loosing inhibitions.
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  • Expert September 2021
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    Common sense - and live feed from the Super Bowl - show that capacity is not relevant when people are literally all over each other celebrating a super bowl game - 22,000 at that. Which let me just say, I think is okay! You can decide if you are comfortable going to a game. But if you think people were just hanging out in their seat watching the game, you clearly did not watch the game. Which is more than okay, but lets not pretend using this capacity percentage makes it all alright and "Covid safe" when that number of people are all over each other.

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  • Ava
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    Agree to disagree
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    I completely agree with this comment.


    At this point it's based on what you personally feel comfortable with, which is different for everyone. I went to a 70 person wedding in August, and a 200 person wedding last weekend. Our own wedding is shaping up to be about 100-120. Our guests are adults, they can make their own decisions.
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    For a virus like c*vid which is 1) fairly transmissible but also 2) less deadly (as compared to really nasty things like Ebola), I think herd immunity from most of the population being vaccinated is the finish line! I agree that it won't go away completely, but if vaccination means that most people will have immunity to avoid infection even after exposure and the people who can't fully fight it off are at a lower risk of death, then that's good enough for me. It would also lower the burden and stress placed on hospitals where, instead of 20 people on ventilators because of severe c*vid, you have none or 1. So it's not about eradicating, it's about dramatically minimizing the risk. See: most common flus, mumps, measles. None are eradicated, but all are typically managed well enough that it wouldn't affect daily life or events like weddings.

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