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Rhiannon
Dedicated July 2019

Elopement followed by wedding ceremony and reception

Rhiannon, on May 16, 2018 at 6:04 PM

Posted in Etiquette and Advice 52

Hi My FH and I have decided to elope in June. We need to do this because we’re currently long distance (my being British and him Mexican) we met at university but he finished his degree so is no longer on a student visa and has had to go to California to work. We plan to legally get married in...
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My FH and I have decided to elope in June. We need to do this because we’re currently long distance (my being British and him Mexican) we met at university but he finished his degree so is no longer on a student visa and has had to go to California to work. We plan to legally get married in California when I go to visit him after this semester ends, but to not tell anyone and in four years time get ‘married’ in Mexico on the date we had set and announced. The wedding packages we’ve found in Mexico are symbolic ceremonies anyway, so we would have to be legally married before the wedding itself anyway. But I’ve read people getting angry about being deceived with a fake wedding?
We were planning on only telling our parents and our witness is one of his friends/cowworkers. We would rather not tell everyone because we’re both young, and because it’s a destination wedding in 2021, we know that most people we invite won’t come because of the costs and time but wouldn’t want to make it fewer by having people think it’s not a real wedding. Because it will be our wedding, and the only one I’ll get. Our courthouse civil ceremony in June is just to get it on paper so that we can actually live in the same country.
Do you think this is okay?

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    Mim ·
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    People are serious because they figure anyone who takes the time to post something wants serious answers. Also, people are questioned about being honest whenever they plan a symbolic wedding.

    Just be honest, and FWIW I know of too many people who quietly got married (were honest too), planned to have an event a few years later and then chose to not spend the money on something that was just symbolic. If life happens and you choose to not have the symbolic ceremony and use the money for something else you'll have a lot of explaining to do
  • T
    Super December 2018
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    Having a vow ceremony and reception is a brilliant idea! I imagine most guests feel deceived when a couple implies the wedding ceremony is the first ceremony they share. If you express that the celebration is strictly ceremonial, I do not believe anyone who attends will be displeased to share the experience with you both. Happy planning!
  • Rhiannon
    Dedicated July 2019
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    Thank you, I meant rude but thought it would be equally rude to say that. I understand the people on here want to do their best to help people, and are serious about it, though it’s much easier to see the reasons why what I had planned may be wrong based on this kind of response vs some of the others I’ve had (‘1: no, your “wedding” in 2021 will not be your wedding, it will be a glorified vow renewal.
    2 : don’t do this. Just don’t. It’s rude to all of your guests, and it will definitely get out.’)

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    While I'm glad you appreciated my post, there is nothing rude with the other responses
  • Mcskipper
    Master July 2018
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    You literally asked if it was okay, and people are saying emphatically no. I’m not sure why you’re feeling attacked — I would feel like the impassioned and unanimous response would help answer the direct question you are asking. Are people okay with this? No.
    Why are we so serious? Because we’ve been around long enough to see people come on here distraught because they just found out a wedding they were planning to attend already happened and was kept secret so they come on here asking if they should still go or if they’re justified in bailing because they’re feeling hurt? If they should give a gift? Or in one particular case a Mom who was funding the wedding asking for validation in pulling her money after she found out her daughter had already married in secret (she did)
  • KB
    Dedicated July 2018
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    Somebody just recently posted about this. Her husband is from the UK and they married so he could stay in the US. It was secret and they were planning a wedding in a year. both moms let it slip and she got a lot of backlash from family, especially his sister in the UK who felt hurt she was not told/included. People are telling you to give you a heads up because some have been on this forum for awhile and have read about things going bad. The point they are trying to make is, be honest and then have an awesome celebration of marriage in 4 years. If I were your friend and you told me, I’d understand and still celebrate in 4 years. Best of luck!
  • AQuixoticBride
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    I understand having to do this logistically, but four years between is a bit much - especially if you're not being honest about it. People will want to celebrate with you anyway, there's no need to lie about it. I don't see how you would keep that secret for so long either. Telling the truth doesn't require a good memory or worrying about who does or doesn't know.
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    I have now been to two weddings where the couple was not getting legally married at the wedding itself. One couple was married a year before for similar immigration issues, and another actually didn't get married legally until a couple months after. There were a handful of people that were grumpy at both. But generally it was sort of fine??? I personally didnt care and those that did shrugged it off eventually. We had great times at both and it was fun to celebrate all the love. Clearly the one where they got legally married after caused much much more grumpy-gossip than the reverse Smiley smile
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    I think that it's a big, big risk to take. Ultimately, it's your choice but I do think it working out would be very very lucky.

    To comment on the rest of the discussion, even if people seem harsh and judgmental from your perspective we are all trying to give advice that avoids hurt feelings and drama. Though people can be very opinionated here, the end goal is always that every couple have a happy wedding day. There is concern under all these responses. I certainly didn't come here to judge you or your decisions but felt compelled to say my piece because I saw what I considered red flags. If anyone in my own life came to me with this plan, I'd feel obligated to point out the risks and the likelihood of it not working out as well as hoped for.

    In the end, you are the only one here who will have to live with the consequences of whichever decision you make but I hope you try and see the strong reaction as a sign you should really consider that it will not go as smoothly as it did for your aunt.
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    I honestly wouldn't be mad if I found out you were technically already married. It would still he awesome to see you celebrate it and think of it as a wedding. Totally wouldn't care. People on here tend to be really about traditional weddings and set in stone. So honestly, do what you want. What makes you happy.
  • The Nuptials
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    Why did you ask initially if you were just going to push back and call everyone serious? Honest question here. This sort of thing comes up a lot on the forum and people always get the same answer.

    4 years is a really long time, most people do have to marry yes, prior to or right after a destination wedding. But 4 years does more than push the envelope. I also always wonder on the back end when people want to have the 'wedding later' if they ever do it? Because life happens and your are legally married and already had a wedding.

  • J
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    People on here are being serious because marriage is a serious commitment, do you really want your whole marriage to be based on a lie? To me that’s just really sad way to start a lifelong commitment to your partner.
  • Going to the chapel
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    I think many of the responses are also colored by the fact that couples who plan on doing this typically say the first ceremony, almost always at a courthouse, isn't the "real" wedding. That negates all those couples - including same sex couples who fought for years for the right to marry - who marry at the courthouse. You are insinuating that their weddings aren't real either.

    I'd go to a vow renewal four years later, even a destination ceremony. No way in heck would I go if I found out that you had lied to me about being married for years. Only you can answer whether you want to risk family and friends thinking poorly of you for lying, perhaps to the point of losing those relationships. Seen it happen.

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    OP, what if, in the four years between, you get pregnant and you guys change your mind about spending the money on the big reception? What are you going to tell your friends/family at that point?
  • Allie
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    Hi! We are having a destination ‘wedding’ in Mexico as well. We, too, are having a symbolic ceremony on the beach and will be married in our home town in the company of our friends that cannot attend our Mexico extravaganza. I think most people are having problems processing your plan because it’s deceitful. Your wedding date will be the day you are legally married in the states (ours will be the week before we head to Mexico). You’re young and that’s TOTALLY okay and i 100% understand your process of thinking.. up until lying to your family members for four years.
  • Caytlyn
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    If you're mostly worried about etiquette, no, it cannot be called a wedding when you are already married. Married people can't have weddings, they can have vow renewals. As PPs have said, I strongly urge you to think long and hard before making this decision. If your mindset is truly "if it gets out, it gets out," then just tell people. And please, don't get married "just for the convenience."

  • Caytlyn
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    I wish that WW offered the option to 'like' a comment, because I would absolutely love this one.

  • OrangeCrush
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    We are serious because marriage and being honest with family and friends is a serious issue. You posted here, looking for advice, you are getting it and don't like it and feel defensive. Your wedding will be the courthouse ceremony in June. Please no lying to people, not for four days, not for four years. You never have to remember the truth, a lie WILL come out as some point. You will have to file taxes as a married couple, someone cold stumble across a document. It happened to me - my sister "married" her second hubby but guess what? It was a symbolic ceremony. I came across docs at a financial planning agency where I worked (not snooping, I was scanning docs) and my maiden name (her name too) jumped out at me. Turns out they were listed as single! Can't lie to the IRS. It was VERY hurtful.

    This is always a hot topic - this was posted a few hours ago and look at all the replies plus hundreds of views.

    I am wondering why you asked for advice then got seemingly angry when people did not give you the affirmation you wanted?

  • MrsV1027
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    Don't lie to people. They WILL find out and are much less likely to come if they know you lied. We eloped in February for insurance reasons and buying a home together and were completely honest with everyone. We are still doing the big wedding ceremony in Vegas which is a DW for us and all of our guests. Everyone is still 100% on board with coming and everything will be very wedding. People will understand. It is actually tradition for Cubans to do the legal portion well before the ceremony portion so his mom was really on board with it because that's what her family and his dad's families have done for generations.

  • The Nuptials
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    We used to be able to, but then it would see as if people got mad about the amount of likes on posts -especially on topics like this.
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