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Savvy September 2019

When do you sign the Marriage Certificate? kind of a vent as well.

Lillian, on June 27, 2019 at 10:51 AM Posted in Etiquette and Advice 0 35

So my FMIL is upset that my fiance and I might sign the government documents before or after our wedding day. We are getting married in a different state, so part of us wants to sign everything in the state we live in to be easier. Some of my family has done this with their weddings that they signed everything a few days or a week before the ceremony and reception, so that they can enjoy their day. If we sign it after it would be on the Monday because that is our 9 year anniversary day.

FMIL thought we were going to go in a room with the family after the ceremony to sign the documents in front of everybody, then do pictures. But this would be impossible since it is an outdoor ceremony and the only other space rented is the banquet hall. FMIL said, if we sign it another day family and friends would be upset that it won't be our actual wedding day. Myself and fiance care about our vows as the final step to being married whether or not the government papers are signed. FMIL also said that she would want to be there on the actual signing day not the ceremony or reception day if that is what we decided.

Which makes me upset, because of all the work we've been doing to celebrate with our family and friends. But we are not super close with her, neither are her and her son. She hasn't helped with planning or anything. Hasn't asked me how I'm doing with planning or the fun details. Only concerned about her dress for a year and half, along with just her needs for our day. She has also tried to push a pastor on us that we don't want. Offering to pay for the pastor as well. We haven't seen this pastor in over five years nor have been to church since we stopped going as an obligation/forced to please her.

We are having a friend do the ceremony, god is not mentioned at all, and we are doing a hand-fasting ceremony. Would family and friends be upset? We were even thinking of signing the documents that morning before getting ready or after the rehearsal as well, just those that need to be there because its just the paperwork for the government to recognize it. We care more about the ceremony and the moment of truly binding ourselves to each other spiritually.


Thanks for letting me rant, I know this got long. I've appreciated reading these forums. Just want to make sure if I'm really offending anybody.

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Latest activity by Ivy ORP, on July 15, 2019 at 3:24 PM
  • Caytlyn
    Legend November 2019
    Caytlyn ·
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    I think it's deceitful to tell your friends and family that they're there to watch you get married and not actually get married that day.

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  • MrsD
    Legend July 2019
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    I've never seen anyone sign a marriage certificate at their wedding (we've been to about 10) so even if they did it, we didn't see it as guests. I wouldn't care at all if you signed it before or after.

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  • L
    Savvy September 2019
    Lillian ·
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    I completely understand your viewpoint. When are you and your fiance signing yours? That is kind of our struggle. We also know that we wouldn't want our whole family separating to watch us sign the document as well. Its not a huge wedding, so that would feel exclusionary to the other guests. That's why we are even thinking of signing it in the morning.

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  • Caytlyn
    Legend November 2019
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    We will probably sign it right after the ceremony. I don't think it needs to be a big to do with all of your friends and family there to watch, but I do think that it should be done that day.

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  • L
    Savvy September 2019
    Lillian ·
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    Ok. I can see that. FMIL made it sound like I had excluded a big to do on the wedding day for the immediate family. Since I have never seen when people do the signing at other weddings.

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  • M
    Legend June 2019
    Melle ·
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    I don't see why it matters when you sign it as long as it's signed. or why it matters who watches you sign it. the point of your wedding is for those to witness your vows and union and that doesn't necessarily involve the marriage certificate. however our officiant did say that instead of a unity thing like candles or sand, some people opt to just take a moment during the ceremony and sign it. i hated that idea though because it sounds awkward aha but that's something you can consider if you want.

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  • E
    Devoted October 2021
    Erin ·
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    I'm going to a family wedding and until reading this post I never put any thought into whether or not I'd be seeing them sign the legal documents or when they'd be doing that at all. In my opinion, if I'm watching the ceremony, then I am watching you get married
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  • L
    Savvy September 2019
    Lillian ·
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    Yeah I wouldn't want to sign it in front of a lot of people. Not even FMIL. My parents are the ones who suggested signing it early so that if things go wrong on the day we wouldn't be as stressed.

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  • Raquel
    Savvy May 2021
    Raquel ·
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    I’ve also been to a several weddings and have never actually seen anyone sign their marriage certificate. While some of my friends signed it the same day ( before or after the ceremony with no fanfare or big production), some signed it the day before. I think it’s completely normal either way.
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  • L
    Savvy September 2019
    Lillian ·
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    I've never thought of when the certificate was signed until doing my own wedding.

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    I actually signed mine the day before at rehearsal. we honestly didn't want to worry about paperwork on our wedding day. so many things will happen on that day and you'll be pulled in so many directions it's nice not to have to worry about another thing

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  • Katie
    Dedicated October 2019
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    My fiance and I are signing ours a few days ahead. I didnt think there are people out there who get worked up about what actual day people sign the paper. What's more important to us is the day we declare our vows to each other, not the day we make it legal to the government lol.

    I've seen weddings where people signed it in front of everyone and weddings where people didnt. I guess it really depends on your crowd
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  • Meghan
    Super September 2019
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    When you say you might sign it before the wedding does that mean you'd basically be doing a small courthouse wedding before the ceremony? Because I don't think you can sign it before you're actually married. At the weddings I've been to the bride and groom sign the papers with the officiant right after the ceremony but it's usually just the bridal party around to see it. I don't think it needs to be a big giant event that all your friends and family need to see. But also it's not something that takes that long to do so I don't think it really takes that much time out of your day to do it day of. I'm not sure of all the paperwork involved when you're getting married in a different state than the one you live in though.

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  • Cristy
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    I've been to many weddings in my life, and even been in several as a bridesmaid. I've never once seen the couple sign the paperwork. Maybe it's just a California thing, but there isn't a big to-do with family and friends present at the signing of the paperwork. What I've seen most often is after the ceremony, the couple and the officiant go off alone somewhere to sign. I was even in my sister's wedding, and then a few years later, my brother's. I never saw them sign the paperwork.

    I don't know where your FMIL got her ideas from, but this is not a thing, and don't let her make you feel guilty or bad for not wanting to make a big production out of this. The wedding is the big production.

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    Savvy September 2019
    Lillian ·
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    No, just the officiant and us signing it before and in an envelope to mail to where it needs to go, so it doesn't get lost throughout the day. It will be our friend who is officiating the ceremony. And it doesn't cost too much to officiate in the state we are getting married in, but these are details we haven't focused on until his mom made a big deal of it. We were just like okay sign the paperwork to get it out of the way.

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  • L
    Savvy September 2019
    Lillian ·
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    That's what I thought. I don't even know why she wants to be there so bad. When we got engaged she wasn't thrilled about it. Even though we were dating for seven years.

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  • Gen
    Champion June 2019
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    We signed ours right after the ceremony before photos. It took 2 minutes, wasn’t a huge deal.

    Best man for some reason was using husband’s back as a table to sign it, despite there being 10 other tables around him 🤦🏻‍♀️ Lol

    When do you sign the Marriage Certificate? kind of a vent as well. 1
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  • Formerbride
    VIP June 2019
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    When I got married we didn't sign anything. We signed the application for the license at the county office but that was it. I have no idea if a witness was necessary for signing either.
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    Savvy September 2019
    Lillian ·
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    That's hilarious!

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  • Bride2020
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    I've been to quite a few weddings, and in a few bridal parties, and I'm in a very religious circle of people. Never have I seen my friends or family sign the paper work, or even mention it really. It's just paperwork. If it's easier to do a few days before or after, then do it, I don't think it's deceitful in any way unless you were to sign it a few months before or something and acting like a married couple and going "we're already married, yay!" which you are not at all doing. Heck, I might even do it a few weeks early so I can get my license and anything that needs changed changed before my honeymoon, I know the kind of person I am and all I'll be thinking about is my checklist of things to change if I wait to deal with it until after I'm back. What's the big deal? If anybody is taking the time to ask you when you're signing papers, that's just weird.
    Every family has something different they think is normal at weddings that maybe just isn't. Tell her this is completely normal, apologize that it isn't matching the tradition her family seems to have in place but that's just not something you can reasonably do, tell her you'd love to involve the tradition otherwise but it just won't work. Mention that in most weddings, signing the paperwork with everyone is not a thing, and you are reserving titles and the emotion of "being married" until after the ceremony, as that's what matters to you.

    I'm sorry she's so focused on herself. My grandmothers acting the same way your FMIL is, all she talks about is her involvement and what kind of dress shes "allowed" to wear, I can't imagine if she was someone more closely involved.

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