"The Most Socially Acceptable Thing a Woman Can Do Is Marry a Man"

I think marriage and children is probably the most socially accepted things.

Throughout history in almost every culture, marriage has been one of the cornerstone of the society.
So there's always been a stigma around singleness and childlessness. It's not nearly as bad (at least where I'm from) but it's definitely still there.

People seem to be suspicious of single people, like they're less than human

View Quoted Comment Yes! I was just saying that in one of my other discussions! If you're a woman, everybody expects you to be in a relationship, barely anybody values you falling in love with yourself first. It's always about when you'll have a boyfriend, then once you have one the next question is when will you get engaged. Once you're engaged everyone wants to know when the wedding will take place. And as soon as you're married people will ask when you're having kids. 🤦

View Quoted Comment Yeah, it's similar for men. As a single man, I always had people asking me about if I was dating, what girls I was interested in, why was I single etc
And definitely was made to feel 'second class' at times.

Yeah, a few of my married friends have said it really didn't take long for people to ask about children!

Marriage and children for sure. And after about 30 if you're single and childless it gets weird. I've seen my friends get some ugly comments.
Which is unfortunate we don't value people for things like they're personality, spirit, work, ect. There's so many parts to a person a relationship is just one.

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Smh, it's just so sad.

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My husband and I plan to wait until I'm 30 for us to have children and I can't tell you how many people have told me that I should be careful because that's "too old" so I should just have children now.

We literally had guests ask us during our reception when we would start having children.

Yea that sounds about right, not that that makes a woman's worth sound any better though. In my culture especially if you're unmarried by 30 or late 20s you're considered like a lost cause. Which is dumb because that doesn't devalue you -_-

View Quoted Comment We are waiting until 30-32 as well. We are 26 and 27 now. We want to take some time to enjoy being married before adding kids to the mix.

I certainly think it's a societal expectation, but I also don't think anyone HAS to get married if they don't think it makes sense for their situation. The problem with that is when people feel pressure to find THE ONE and when they don't, they think there's something wrong with them.

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There is a video from Adam Ruins Everything, and I think everyone needs to watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9ryP0UyO5U

View Quoted Comment We were 30 when we had our first child and I was 32 when we had our second child and I am extremely happy we waited, newborns and the lack of sleep will definitely test your relationship. If someone asks you when you are gonna start having kids, tell them either its none of their business cause it really isn't any of their business.

Probably not true. I think the most socially acceptable thing a woman can do is work.

There are so many people now who don't give two crumbs about marriage. And that's ok! People get more bent out of shape if a person isn't in the workforce.

I'm not sure on the context of the YouTuber saying it, but I disagree with that statement. My opinion is it's socially acceptable for a woman to do whatever the heck she wants to

That kind of thinking makes me wonder if someone is stuck in 1950.

Or if where I live is really that much different from the rest of the world.

Honestly, if someone said that to me, and I'm marrying a man, I would just start laughing in their face.

Maybe I really just don't care what society thinks...

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I've definitely experienced people holding me at a higher level now that I'm married.

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I completely understand. That is also why we want to wait for a little while.

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I think this pressure to get married causes a lot of people to settle and that is why the divorce rate is so high. Just my opinion though.

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Thank you for sharing that!

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I'm praying for twins so I'm one and done. I know it will be difficult for first-time parents but we have family and friends to help us out.

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I'm not sure that I agree. Women are still treated like second-class citizens in the workforce. I think if some people could have it their way women would be at home pregnant and barefoot. There is certainly no one size fits all, but that is what I've seen.