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Should your relationship with your father in law be polite and distant?

The Sealpups, on August 10, 2020 at 8:31 PM Posted in Family and Relationships 0 26
My parents raised us to be polite, respectful and to have manners. Even if we weren’t millionaires, our attitudes speak volumes. I’ve written on here before that we’re currently living with the in laws to save for a house. It’s either we get a really nice condo or save for a house (and we’re getting close!). They have a big, 3 story home and we’re downstairs. For the most part, they leave us alone. I’ve never had a problem with his mom. I think she knows that I’m someone who’s private and she doesn’t pry. I do share things with her now and then. His father...is a different story.


I’ve always kept my distance and remained respectful. I am now learning that me being an in law makes no difference in him being an emotional vampire. He doesn’t respect boundaries (will bother me for a conversation when I’m working from home- like the door is closed and he will just call my name 5 times until I come out or answer. I’m polite so I listen a little bit when I tell him I need to get back to work, he’ll tell ME to go to back to work), needs constant attention and is a control freak. He constantly complains to me about my husband and I (it’s really him over-communicating) and he’s draining to be around (he literally complained to me about his friends dumped him bc they said he was bossy/controlling). He told me I annoyed him bc I was too respectful with my manners. I am certainly not a doormat and told him otherwise but if manners really “annoy” someone, it says a lot about the person. After the incident, I really worked hard to avoid him at all times. He tried to make it up one night by telling me a story about how he got a cut and I just walked by with, “sorry that happened to you” and went down to our space.
He is now acting like a teenage who’s ego I massively punctured. I vented to my friend and she said this was a BLESSING, so now he can give me space and not interact with me anymore. He can’t try to control, boss, or demand things from me like his other children (he will ask them to drop whatever they’re doing in the moment to assist in whatever he asks). I also observed how he is with my husband’s niece (less than 2 years old). She’s scared of dogs. Funny but my SIL (who has a similar attitude to her dad) was blaming my dog for her daughter’s fear. She met my dog when she was 8 months old and I have a very friendly poodle who likes to jump. She was trying to lick her feet and I needed to separate my dog. It doesn’t help that her mom hates dogs. As a dog owner, I was livid when I found out. Anyway, my FIL told his granddaughter to KICK THE TOY DOG bc she’s the one who’s in control, not the “stupid dog”. What kind of person teaches a child this?! It makes me want to be more distant with him at all times. I wouldn’t want my kids to be near him if he teaches his granddaughter animal cruelty! I think my FIL is a narcissist....

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Latest activity by The Sealpups, on August 11, 2020 at 1:58 PM
  • Caytlyn
    Legend November 2019
    Caytlyn ·
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    Move out of their house.
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  • MOB So Cal
    January 2019
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    I agree with Caytlyn.... As you said, you've written about this several times. It's his house, he has every right to act however he acts (as long as he's not doing anything illegal, immoral, etc.). It's kind of weird that he told the niece to "kick the dog," but to a 2-year old a "very friendly dog" that likes to jump and lick is likely pretty scary, so you probably need to control the dog better or keep it completely separate from where the child is to keep both of them safe. You are clearly not happy in your living situation, so it's way past time to move out.

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  • Michelle
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    This is so gonna erupt in a huge way! What a jerk! How much longer do you have in order to buy your house?
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    I agree with Caytlyn and MOB So Cal. You've posted several times which tells me the situation is getting better rather than worse. It sounds like it is definitely time for you to move out. I also agree that if you have a very energetic dog then you need to control the dog around the child. I know my parents have two dogs and my sister's step-son (6 years old) is afraid of them because they are both very high strung so my parents don't let the dogs around him.

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  • Chrysta
    Master November 2022
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    I have to agree with previous posters. Move out now! This is a horribly toxic environment, and there is no reason to believe it is going to improve. And as a fellow dog lover (and all animals, for that matter) I would have lost my mind when he told a 2 year old girl to kick a dog!! This is a mentally disturbed person. Remove yourself from that nonsense & distance your future children from him.
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  • Kimberly
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    It’s time for you to move out of his house. You actually aren’t being respectful, your being an entitled brat. It’s his house and he can go anywhere he wishes and act anyway he chooses. You aren’t keeping your “very friendly dog” under control and is most likely the reason the niece is scared of dogs.


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  • T
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    My dog doesn’t live with us, she’s with my parents. And no, she’s had other instances with dogs in their family other than mine
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    Just got a newer job (thank goodness) so hopefully by the end of the year! Smiley smile
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    Exactly! I know it was just a toy dog but he was essentially teaching his granddaughter to abuse animals- all in the name of control. Insane!
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  • Michelle
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    That’s not too far away. Just look at the bigger picture & keep your eye on the prize!
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    Devoted September 2012
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    Thanks for your encouragement! I appreciate it very much Smiley smile I still considered us blessed that we can stay here for now to save. It may seem immature or outdated but this is the quickest way to save for a house, especially while we don’t have kids yet. We live right near tech city - 20 miles south. It’s a great area to be (we both grew up here) and it has flourished so much! The homes here have tripled in price, close to a million for a suburb (thanks amazon!) but I know we can do it!
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  • Chrysta
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    Exactly. Get out of there. It’s just not healthy to be in that environment. And your poor impressionable niece!! Thank god your dog doesn’t live there with that monster!
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  • Leanne
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    It will get better when you guys move out. Good luck
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    Again...just move out, you're married and in your 30s. I'm sure the fastest way to save for a house is getting free housing from someone else instead of paying your own way but it means you have to abide by the rules of the house you live in. You don't like that, so leave.

    Also, keep your dog away from small children and anyone who doesn't like it. I wouldn't want a dog jumping on me and licking my feet either, and for a 2 year old child the dog seems a lot bigger than it does to an adult.

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    Actually, we’re paying a good chunk of rent and not staying here for free. Also, there’s nothing wrong with staying with parents (even temporarily) just because you’re in your 30s. In many cultures, that’s acceptable. I know someone who worked at Microsoft who gave up his fancy condo to move back in with her parents after the wedding. They’re on their way to getting a house early next year. Even though It sucks now, I see the opportunity we have now. I would hate to be in that situation where we’re living at a condo or apartment because “we’re in our 30’s”, only to have kids soon, save what we can and get a house by the time they head out for college.


    I should’ve made myself more clear up there but my dog didn’t jump on her at eye level. She was being held and she’s a Small- medium sized dog who jumped up on was standing on her hind feet. Any dog owner knows how harmless that is. Regardless, I still disciplined my dog. It’s so easy to tell someone online to “watch your dog” or to do something.
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    "Any dog owner knows how harmless that is"

    Cool stuff. My neighbor's toy Maltese is at the city pound because she nipped at the heels of someone walking in our neighborhood. So yeah, watch your dog, because other people - especially ones who don't like or are afraid of dogs - don't care what happens to it.

    Your FIL isn't a narcissist, he's just bored and annoying.

    I've lived on my own since 21 so I just don't have a lot of sympathy for people who live with their parents in their 30s and then complain about the arrangements. Good luck.

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    Regardless of if the dog jumped at her at eye level or not, you need to better control your dog. She shouldn't be jumping need the child at any level. Also, at thirty most people don't live with their parents. You are lucky they are letting you stay with them.
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  • needmorewine
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    The only solution is to move out. It's his house and they are doing you a favor by allowing you to live there as adults in order to save money. You're choosing to remain there when you could live in an apartment or condo.

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  • MrsD
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    Agreed. I think it's odd to criticize someone's behavior and to say they aren't giving you privacy when you are living in their house. My husband and I personally wouldn't ever live with any of our parents because we like our privacy & like things done our own way. It sounds like it's having a negative affect on your relationship with your in-laws to live in their house so I'd just move out now. How they treat dogs in their own home is their prerogative. I would never treat a dog like that but we only own a dog because we own our own home and have lived on our own since I was 21 so we don't have to worry about how our dog is treated since it's only us.

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  • MOB So Cal
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    Okay, but you complain frequently on this forum about your in-laws -- especially your FIL -- calling him an "energy vampire," "narcissistic," etc. for the way he behaves in his own home, while defending what a financially good plan living with them is and how what you're doing is culturally acceptable for you. You also start almost every post with describing how well-mannered and respectful you are, but that doesn't always align with the things you say about your husband's family. Only you and H can decide if the trade-off of dealing with his behavior is worth the cheap rent; if you truly think it's the best thing, if I were you, I'd work hard at accepting that FIL (and all the other relatives you've complained about, SIL, BIL, MIL, etc.) are the way they are. To an outsider, it doesn't sound like a super respectful relationship on your end -- sometimes it helps to try and see ourselves from others' perspectives -- but your responses in this thread and others are often pretty defensive. If that's the way you react in real life, that might be feeding the on-going tensions you frequently describe. Good luck to you.

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