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Cherry
Expert February 2020

My mom has really let me down

Cherry, on November 1, 2019 at 6:09 PM Posted in Family and Relationships 0 28
Sorry this is so long! Ugh. When we first got engaged, we couldn't wait to share the news with our families. I'm the only girl on my side and the last of my siblings to get married. Our families were thrilled to various degrees, with my mother being the least excited. She likes my fiancé and has never said anything negative about him, so I'm not sure why she was so unenthused.

Fast forward a few months and her behavior went from being sort of interested to straight-up uninterested. She changes the subject every time wedding planning comes up, she hasn't offered to help with anything, and when we do give her something to help with, she conveniently 'forgets' so we end up having to do it anyway, which has put us behind schedule on a few of our To-Do items. Now we don't even bother asking.
My FMIL has been over-the-top helpful. She's been helping with so many things that I almost feel bad she's taken on so much extra. She's really taught me a lot about how different my mom is from other moms. It's a big wake-up call and it makes me long for that sort of connection with my mom.

My father passed away when I was 14 and we were very close. Since then, I always pictured that when I got engaged some day, my mom would be first in line to offer to help. She'd be there with me shopping for jewelry and veils. She'd take on a lot of organizing and we'd have this fun, cool new event to put into our repertoire. We'd look back at this time and just laugh about how stressed we were.

Instead, I've done a lot of this alone, and while my FMIL has been super helpful, it's just a little different, as we're not very close yet. My mom isn't helping financially, but I wasn't expecting her to. I had hoped she'd want to help in other ways though, and now I'm so disappointed and hurt. FH and I believe she may be a narcissist. Some telling clues have been presenting themselves over the past year. So she may not even realize how hurtful she's being, or she may not care.

So I have two questions:
1. Any other brides or grooms out there feeling let down by their mothers? If so, how are you dealing with it? I'm trying not to be petty or enraged, and am especially trying not to spill many tears over this. We're about 3 months out and I don't think it's going to get any better with her. At this point, we're just considering her to be a guest like anyone else. But I'm open to ideas on how else to deal with this sadness.

2. I'm SUPER grateful for my FMIL's help and do feel blessed to have her. We're planning on giving her a wonderful gift during the rehearsal to thank her. Not sure if we're supposed to give my mother anything. We were under the impression that gifts were for those who help out at the wedding. What do you give to the person who hasn't been there for you and who has made your wedding planning harder instead of easier? (And you can't say 'the middle finger' because FH tried that already and even though it made me laugh, I'm not having it. She's still my mother, after all.)

Advice is greatly appreciated. Smiley heart

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Latest activity by Cherry, on November 4, 2019 at 1:49 PM
  • Sara
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    I'm sorry you're feeling this way. It's great that your FMIL is going above and beyond with helping you with your wedding.. However..no one is obligated to help with your wedding except the two people getting married. Everyone is different and maybe your expectations of your mother are too high. Nothing you wrote points to narcissist..but you so didn't go into too many details.

    I also think it would awful to get your FMIL a nice gift and not get your mother anything simply because she didn't help with you wedding. She raised you and help to get you where you are today (assuming she did it alone for a time since your father passed away) didn't she? Maybe there's another reason she's pulling away? Could your father not being able to be there for you open old wounds for her? I can't say much without knowing more of your story..but my grandma was always sad when her kids were married and her husband couldn't be there.

    Best of luck to you.
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  • Jeanie
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    Maybe your mother has a little bit of empty nest syndrome. You’re the last to get married, so maybe she just sees it as the end to a chapter in her life. Yeah, she could just be narcissistic, but have you always felt that way? There’s many reasons why people don’t react the way we’d like, and it’s not always because they have bad intentions. Try not to compare your FMIL to your mother because no two people are alike. That also is probably making your mother feel worse and may be making the situation even more strained.
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  • Caitlin
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    It doesn't sound like you are very close with your mother, but I think there is definitely something there that is stopping her from being happy for you. I think if I were in this situation I would make time and take her out to coffee, adult to adult, and talk this out. She obviously has some feelings she is bottling up inside and neither one of you are going to get past this without talking about the "elephant in the room". My fear is that if your (plural) grievances are not aired then this is going to be a grudge that stays with you for a long time. Weddings are meant to be happy occasions. So that's what I would do.
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  • Brandi
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    I’m sorry this is your experience. Like someone mentioned not everyone is wedding involved and sometimes, our dreams can lead to expectations that some people were never meant to meet. I appreciate the “help” and “support” from many but also know that it’s mine and my fiancé’s day and it’s our responsibility. However, as a woman, I can only imagine the dreams we have of our mothers being there every step of the way. Thus, bringing me to another stated comment: maybe mom is feeling lonely and scared that her youngest is growing up. Maybe she’s missing dad more now? Maybe she’s afraid of growing older alone? I know it’s easier to think that shouldn’t matter but grief comes in waves and many forms. Just another thought.

    Anyway, early on, my FILs made it very clear they were not helping. FH felt hurt by his parents lack of support and embarrassed because my family is super involved and helpful. It also hurt me too. However, we still let his parents know major things or I’ll send her a text when I’m doing some wedding things to make them feel included. Sometimes their responses are cold and short but we both love and value family and still try anyway. We try without expectation and know that our heart is in the right place. I don’t want to give my FMIL a gift or an acknowledgment because of her lack of help. But, that’s still his mom and my FMIL. So, her “gift” won’t be as extravagant as those who’ve helped but still something small that says “thank you” anyway. Ultimately, she birthed and raised the man of my dreams.

    I’d share my feelings with my mom. If she’s really a narcissist as you say - tell her but don’t expect things to change. Let it go and look forward to your day. But, you’d may be surprised at how expressing to her your feelings may open the door as to why she feels what she feels.
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  • Cherry
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    Thanks for this advice. Smiley smile

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  • Cherry
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    Yes. This is mostly what I was getting at - that the dreams I had of my mom helping have been dashed. I guess it's hard to let go of a dream like that when you've had it for so long. And when it feels like it's turned into a nightmare instead.

    I think I'll take your advice and see if having coffee with her will help. At the beginning of planning she was being really negative and unhelpful. I did have a small convo with her and she said she'd try to do better, but she never did - things just got worse instead. Maybe we need to have a "Come to Jesus" meeting so I can at least get this off my chest. Thanks so much! Super helpful!

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  • Cherry
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    Thanks Caitlin. It's true we're not super close - my brothers are her favorites and she's made that very well known over the years. I never really minded because I knew my dad loved me so much and so that was OK. But I think I'll try to schedule coffee with just the two of us and see what it is that's holding her back. If it turns out to be her narcissism then at least I'll feel a little vindicated. But maybe it is something else, and that's truly what I need to get to the bottom of. If nothing else, at least I can say I tried.

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  • 2d Bride
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    Some people are just not all that interested in weddings, no matter how much they may care about the couple. I notice you are not blaming your FFIL for not helping with the wedding. But interest in weddings is not something that just goes with being female.

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  • Cherry
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    Sara, we will be getting my mother a gift, but we're just not sure what. I'm too polite, too giving, and don't have as mean a streak as my FH. Without going into too many details, my whole family and my therapist think she has some strong narcissistic tendencies, but I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt. Or maybe I'm just clueless.

    She didn't really raise me after my dad died. She was never around and I had to take care of my siblings alone. She'd leave a couple of hundred dollars a month for groceries and bills, but it was me going to parent/teacher conferences for my brothers, me doing the cooking/cleaning/shopping, and me growing up really fast. I left home as soon as I turned 18. She's remarried since then and has a husband she cares for a lot as well...

    Over the years we've managed to repair a lot of our relationship, and she's admitted to some wrongdoing, but she always said she couldn't wait for me to get married (asking FH when he was going to make an honest woman of me, etc.) and this new behavior is so out of tune with what she's been saying for years. I guess I'm just confused and hurt by that. But FH says I shouldn't be surprised.

    Thanks for the reminder that it's up to FH and me alone to plan the wedding. I forget that sometimes. I know nobody is required to help, and I've been really hesitant to ask people because of my mom's behavior. I have a feeling we may elope. LOL. Thanks again!

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  • Cherry
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    FFIL is paying for all kinds of things (the honeymoon, the food, etc.) and is helping FMIL with making some of the decorations. I know some women aren't interested. Honestly I was never interested in weddings until I started planning my own! I know that's bad to admit, but it's true. I'm trying to cut her some slack for sure. Thanks for the help. Smiley smile

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  • Cherry
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    Thanks everyone. When I posted I think I was mostly just venting, but I'll definitely meet up with my mom and see what she has to say. If it turns out she really isn't interested in helping then I'll leave it at that and continue my planning without her and at least I'll know and I'll have a straight answer. And I'll try to keep my hurt feelings out of it. (LOL I think I'm just dramatic sometimes.)

    Smiley heart

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  • Halle
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    Girl first of all I UNDERSTAND me and my mom went through aVERY similar situation . My mom was VERY petty just about my entire engagement . I’m the oldest girl and me and mom had always been SUPER close so as you can imagine I was so hurt when she wasn’t supportive the way I wanted her to. I was so surprised because my mom had never hurt me like this before she has become a whole new person during this process . I cried for months about it from all the drama and frustration . I picked up lessons along the way

    1. It made me and my FH closer because I got to see him be patient loving and selfless during all the chaos
    2. I got to learn how to forgive and forget . It was NOTHING I could do to change the way my mom was behaving because even when I tried to talk to her about it she became defensive and a victim .
    3. I learned how to put my big girl panties on and do what’s best for me . I had to Make a choice not to let my entire wedding experience be negative .
    All of this happened for about a year . I am 24 days away from getting married and IT JUST got better . It’s your moment don’t let ANYONE take it from you not even your mom . Trust me I understand the pain . Vent to you FH let him be there for you but get to a place where you forgive her without her saying sorry . This will really help with dealing with it .
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  • Crystal
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    I have been feeling the same way. I was hoping to go shopping with her this weekend but she forgot to tell me she went to my brothers for the week. It feels like pulling teeth to get her to shop.

    In fact, I had a melt down cry last night about my
    wedding. My father isn’t in my life (publicly has advertised I’ve been replaced) my current sister in law didn’t tell me her sister was getting married now my brother won’t be there, and I feel like my mom isn’t there either. It just feels really lonely.


    I’m so sorry you’re going through this. But thank you for sharing. It helped me to not feel alone or crazy.
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  • Cherry
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    Crystal, you're on my wavelength. I'm so sorry your mom is not being helpful. My mom did the same thing - made plans with me and when I showed up at her house she was already gone, supposedly hanging out with a new 'friend' we'd never heard of before and haven't heard about since. Tried again, went to the restaurant, waited an HOUR and she was MIA, unreachable by phone. Thought maybe she'd been in an accident or something. Nope, later that night she texted to say she was out and forgot and left her phone at home. I don't believe it for a second, but for now I'm just planning without her. Hopefully you can either talk with her about it like I'm going to try to do, or just move on without her assistance/guidance. And if you need advice let me know so I can try to help! 🤗
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  • Sara
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    That sheds a better light on the situation. It stinks when people don't live up to what you thought they would. I'm sorry you're going through this. Planning a wedding is stressful enough.

    I've personally gone the route of not asking for help. I've had experience with being let down far too much and have trouble asking now. It's easier to rely on myself and my FH (which is still something I'm working on..he told me to get used to help from him).

    Don't let it get your down!! Also..be thankful for your FMIL! She sounds great. 😁

    The gift is totally up to you. It's a gift. Although, if fmils gift is way better..i wouldn't give it to them at the same time.
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  • Cherry
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    Halle, thank you! I'm sorry your mom has been unsupportive as well, and your ideas to cope are really, really good ones! Isn't it weird that our mothers turned into pod people just after our engagements? What on earth is that about? I'm glad I'm not the only person going through this. Thought it was just my mom being weird and me overreacting. And though it's part of your heartbreak too, part of me is glad I'm not alone. 🤗
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  • Cherry
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    Oh! Almost forgot! Congrats on making it through despite her and yayyyy! So close, girl!!
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  • Halle
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    Exactly that’s why I HAD to write you back because I felt the exact same when I was going through that . It makes you feel worse when you feel you’re alone . I felt insane like something was wrong with me but as I talked through it and vented about it I realized no it’s just an unfortunate situation . Thanks girl I know it doesn’t seem like it but someone will change in this situation if it’s not your mom it will be you . Trust me when you change and your perceptive of it makes a world of difference. I’m so happy I could be encouraging to you!!
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  • Cherry
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    Sara, I'm the same way. I have a hard time asking for help. I'm definitely lucky because my FMIL has offered, and my FH has also been sort of assigning her things, claiming she's happy to help.

    Yeah, I do think we will give them their gifts separately. I'm thinking some nice earrings for my mom to wear at the wedding should suffice. She'll hopefully appreciate them without feeling like it was an empty gesture, and we'll get similar ones for FMIL on top of the gift we already got her, that way when my mom sees the earrings on the day-of, she'll just assume they both got the same things.

    Thanks for your help ❤
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  • Crystal
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    Yeah,
    I think about talking to her, but I feel it’s going to fall on deaf ears. I’m trying to truck along. I don’t even feel she’s going to plan and bridal shower.
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