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Just Said Yes December 2023

Mother of the Bride Nightmare - Need Advice

Bae, on April 5, 2020 at 12:33 PM Posted in Family and Relationships 0 35
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For the past few months I've been planning a Japanese winter themed wedding. I already have the dress, the colors, the flowers, invites, you name it. My biggest problem right now is my mother. She wants to wear a slim above the knee black dress to my wedding. I know modern day wedding planning doesn't really care if someone wears black compared to the traditional points. However, Japanese custom with marriage prohibits the parent from wearing black. It symbolizes their disapproval to the marriage and an omen that the marriage will fail. Not exactly something I need on my wedding day.

I've looked at several appropriate dresses fitting my color theme but my mother rejects them all, she won't even try the dresses on. She keeps going back to she wants to wear black and I have to keep telling her no because it's inappropriate, she needs to be culturally sensitive. She told me she could wear black and add something with sparkle or jewels to make it look like a midnight snow storm and she'd "fit" the theme. I've had to keep telling her no. It's still black. My wedding is winter themed; it's not snow storm themed. Her image of what she wants to wear is replicating a hoochie dress at a night club. My mother is over 50 years old; my wedding is not the time or place to go through her mid-life crisis.

I don't know how to handle my mother with this. She's the only family I have on my side of the family and it's coming down to do I just let her have her way even though she's dooming my marriage and proving once and for all that she doesn't respect that it's my wedding and not hers. Or do I just tell her to not come and I have no one on my family's side in attendance.

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Latest activity by Jasmine, on April 11, 2020 at 11:32 AM
  • B
    Just Said Yes December 2023
    Bae ·
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    My biggest problem is her being culturally insensitive. Imagine your mother attending your wedding wanting to look like a hoochie. She can't even accept the culture that my wedding is tied into. From the sound of things, you can't either. So you don't understand.

  • Caytlyn
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    Caytlyn ·
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    If you or your FS were Japanese, maybe it would be a bigger issue, but you’re not. You’re using their culture as a theme for your wedding. No one is going to think “wow, the MOB is wearing black, she must not approve of their marriage.” They’re not going to pay any attention to your mother’s attire in the first place. What will you do if other guests show up in black since it’s a super common color and they probably have no idea that you find it unacceptable?
  • Sarah
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    Sarah ·
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    She needs to be culturally sensitive to who? You aren’t Japanese and neither is your FH yet you’re trying to have a Japanese wedding. I don’t think she’s the one being culturally insensitive.
  • LB
    Champion November 2016
    LB ·
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    Someone else's culture is not a theme for a wedding...


    Let your mom wear what she wants. People will more likely judge you for having a "Japanese wedding" when you arent Japanese than judge what your mom is wearing.
  • Hanna
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    Hanna ·
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    Are you or your FH Japanese? If so, then I can definitely see why it would be problematic for your mother to wear black to your wedding. If you're not Japanese and this is just the theme of your wedding, then that's another story...

  • Karla
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    Karla ·
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    Okay, before I harp on you for using another culture as a theme for your wedding, can you please clear up for all of us if either you or your husband are Japanese? If not, what is the significance of having a Japanese-themed wedding? How does it tie into your story?


    Sorry, I’m not one to overthink wedding themes and if you had told me “I’m having a disco/studio 54-themed wedding!” Cool. I wouldn’t bat an eye. However, when you start bringing culture into it, you have to further explain it so that YOU don’t look like you’re insensitive and guilty of cultural appropriation.
  • LB
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    LB ·
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    OP wrote on another thread that neither she nor her FH are Asian but plan to move to Japan "sometime in the future"
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    Melle ·
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    This is an interesting post aha. i think that's kind of cool though that you're super into your theme but as PPs have mentioned, you really also can't force someone to wear or do something they don't want. you can make more suggestions and tell them what it means to you but again, it is what it is.

    perhaps you can suggest your mother to wear a robe or some jacket over the dress? i'm sure there's plenty of beautiful looking kimono type jackets.

    but again, if she doesn't comply, as disappointing to you as it is, there's only so much you can do ya know?

  • Karla
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    Oh. Yikes.



    No comment. 😳 😬
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    Joyce ·
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    This is from OP's other post:

    "My fiance and I agreed to a winter wedding and we're throwing in some Japanese customs (vows are in Japanese, also including Japanese bamboo flute music to walk down the aisle, I don't like traditional American wedding march music). We're not Asian but we're looking to move to Japan permanently in the coming years."

    Lots of red flags re cultural appropriation there. But to address your concern, I highly doubt that anyone (unless you have many traditional Japanese guests in attendance) will realize that black is a disrespectful color. (And, I guess, nobody will understand your vows either. But it sounds like you and your FH are fine with that). Do you personally believe that your mom is wishing ill on your wedding because she wants to wear a certain dress? If so, I think you have bigger fish to fry.

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    Neeva ·
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    This is a hot mess. You are not allowed to dictate what your mother wears to your wedding. If you are considering not having your mother at your wedding because of a dress, that really says something more about her than you. Sure we can recommend people wear what we want but at the end of the day it's their decision.

    It sounds like she's not really caring about the color since she is not Japanese and you aren't either. If you have a problem with the "hoochie" nature of her dress then you can recommend something more conservative, but can't change her mind so let it go.

  • Sharon
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    I'm going to give a different view. Culture issues aside, doesn't anyone think the mother is being a bit disrespectful to her daughter by not even considering another color dress? Why is it so hard for mother and daughter to find a compromise on this? I think theres a lot more to this than culture or dress color. I hope they can find a solution that works for them. It doesn't seem like the kind of thing a mother and daughter should lose their relationship over.
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    Joyce ·
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    Really good point!


    OP, I hope you can work this out. I am personally not very close to my mother, but I would also regret if she weren’t at my wedding, and I know she would be very unhappy about it too.
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    Willow ·
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    Are you sure you have your customs straight? I can't find this on Google. Everything I can find says the men typically wear black suits and I saw a photo of a woman in a black kimono standing next to the bride.


    You're the one being culturally insensitive by using someone else's culture as a theme.
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    Judith ·
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    It is an American custom never to tell your mother or other family members what to wear. If you were in formal attire, American style and having a wedding. Anyone himself Scottish, might choose his kilt and full formal Scottish attire, even though you are an American holding a party in America. And someone from India, or China has a choice, the attire of the country they are in. Or their own native dress of the right formality. Your mother is an American, coming to a wedding in America. No matter what costumes you two wear, Prince Charming and Cinderella, or Japanese traditional wedding wear, your mom is perfectly proper wearing American style clothes in any color that would be acceptable at a usual American wedding. All that you have to say is how formally you will dress, and she can choose anything that formal, or one step less formal. Since you are going in costume ( since you are not Japanese, that is what it is), she can only go by time of day, is it afternoon going into evening? And, dressy. Anything that is in that general type, is great. Please leave your mother be. You as bride may choose dresses or for your ladies if you have a WP. And no one else. Not guests, not family. Nor can you expect any guest to go with your theme. They can if they want to. But they are not Japanese, and neither are you. Wearing black to your wedding is not offensive for that reason .
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    Veronica ·
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    I looked on Google as well. I found several articles that say black to a Japanese wedding is totally fine. The only color that it recommends not wearing is white. I think she just made this up because she doesn't like the idea of her mom wearing a black dress. I agree with you that she is being culturally insensitive. I bet a lot of their guests are going to be super confused because their vows will be in another language. The guests also probably don't know enough about Japanese customs to know is considered appropriate and she could very easily have guests show up in black. We had plenty of guests wear black to our wedding.

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    It appears that in general you don’t like the dress as you feel it’s not appropriate. I’m not sure but my guess is you don’t want her to wear a short dress as you find it hoochie. If she’s flashing her behind or her front, that’s hoochie at any age. As a woman of a certain age ( older than your mother) I would say I believe she’s being extreme patient with her daughter. I will refrain from commenting further about your vision

  • Alyrae
    Super February 2020
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    Have u tried a multicolored dress .... so its not just black its black and another color of the wedding i told what color my mom and and mother in law should wear ..... sadly we couldnt find the right color dress for my mother in law and i let her wear black ..... which looked good with my theme .... honestly i think its no big deal unless there r a lot of Japanese people coming ..... and i like your theme i think its cool ..... and other posters we r supposed to be lifting eachother up not knockimg eachother down if she wants a Japanese style wedding so be it .... its different and kinda cool .... if it means something to u and your husband good ......... and as long as u arent being disrespectful of the culture
  • Ellen
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    Ellen ·
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    Perhaps the mom isn’t considering another color, because the daughters reasoning for being against a black dress is to respect cultural norms... when SHE IS NOT JAPANESE!
  • yung_coconut
    Dedicated October 2019
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    There's a lot going on here. First of all, I *am* Japanese American -- please don't use my culture as your wedding theme. There are some beautiful customs or traditions you can incorporate in your wedding, but please don't make it your "theme." Many Japanese customs are rooted in Shintoism, so there is a religious aspect to things.

    @Melle, a kimono isn't a jacket or a robe. Traditional Japanese dress (kimono, happi, yukata, etc.) should not be worn as accessories to match a theme. There are certain appropriate times and places to wear them, usually at religious events.

    This is an article that I hope you (OP, and any others in the future who find this thread) take the time to read: https://densho.org/my-kimono-is-not-your-couture/ While it focuses on the kimono, it explains how those who aren't Japanese can pick and choose what they think is "cool" and "trendy," while Japanese Americans were forced to assimilate (and still dealt with prejudice and racism even if they assimilated). OP, I believe you're trying to be respectful and mindful with your theme, but I do implore you to thoroughly research, consider and appreciate what customs you incorporate in your wedding.

    On a separate note... I would talk to your mom and see if you can figure out why she's pushing so hard for this dress. Maybe she wants a darker color, so you could push her towards a dark blue or jewel-tone color? Or is it the dress itself that's inappropriate? Can she cover up with a shawl? Or maybe she's not loving the MOB outfits she's seeing in stores? When I went shopping with my mom, we were frustrated with the countless pantsuits and sequins -- maybe she wants something that she feels cute in? We found something at Macy's, but just in the "fancy dress" section instead of a proper wedding guest section. I recommend trying to talk it out and see if you can compromise. I don't think it's worth uninviting her over, especially if she's the only person from your family's side in attendance.

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