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Stephanie
Expert October 2018

Marriage laws in Pa

Stephanie, on March 13, 2018 at 1:08 PM Posted in Planning 0 15

Ok, so it is very hard to get a clear answer for this according to the website. In Pennsylvania, I have known many people who have officiated weddings. However the law states "must be a clergyperson and meet with a regular congregation." But I want to know how have so many people I know, been able to legally marry their friends, what constitutes as a regular congregation? Is the Universal Life Church valid? Our officiant is also our friend, and he had just done a wedding for a couple last year. I am in Luzerne County. He's married people locally and in Chicago. I guess I am checking to see if this is valid.

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Latest activity by Stephanie, on March 13, 2018 at 8:12 PM
  • LB
    Champion November 2016
    LB ·
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    If you want to know if it's legal you should call your county to find out. I personally wouldn't trust the advice of internet strangers to know if you wedding is going to be valid or not... Just call.

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  • Heather
    Expert September 2018
    Heather ·
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    I didn't know this
    I'm in PA too
    The lady doing my wedding used to be a preacher but she retired so no doesn't run a church now
    I' interested in answers
    We might have a JP there too I'm thinking so either way it should be legal
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  • K
    Devoted May 2018
    Kaitlin ·
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    My step dad is licensed by the ULC and was going to marry us, but we decided to have someone else do it as soon as we saw that. I want to make sure my marriage is 100% legal and not find out down the road that it’s not. He was going to go to the courthouse and ask, but we decided against it.
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  • Talullah
    VIP May 2018
    Talullah ·
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    I inquired about this at the coun
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  • Talullah
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    Talullah ·
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    Sorry, hit the reply button by mistake lol!
    I inquired about this at the county clerks office also. I live in Luzerne county. My niece was ordained thru Universal Life. We were advised not to do it. The laws are changing by county (it's not valid in 2 counties now). They said the laws in Luzerne county will change at some time & the marriage will be null and void. Also said we may not even be notified if it is voided. They did tell us we can get a Quaker liscense. Basically you marry yourselves. You need 2 witnesses & no officiant because you do it yourselves. They told us that law will not change. I was too nervous about the whole thing so a local magistrate is marrying us.
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  • Mrs. Fall Bride
    Master October 2016
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    Exactly this.

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  • FutureMrs.L
    Master September 2018
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    Precisely this... I don’t understand why these questions are posted here. Call the local county clerk and get the information, not ask an Internet forum about the legalities of a friendor performing the ceremony. We’re not qualified to answer these questions regarding marriage laws. Only your local county clerk is...

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  • Munchkin9218
    Master September 2018
    Munchkin9218 ·
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    This is not a risk I would want to take unless the laws where very clear. In PA it varies from county to county so you need ot call the county clerk here you will be married. But its better to err on the side of caution and jsut use a professional

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  • Annie
    VIP October 2018
    Annie ·
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    Each county is different, so call the county in which you're getting married in. You can always marry yourself in PA with a self marriage license, which usually costs more money, depending on the county. Also the fees per marriage license varies per county as well.

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  • starsinwaves
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    Call the county, though I can't imagine you're only allowed to be married by someone with a religious affiliation.

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  • Heather
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    Heather ·
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    This is what I'm thinking too
    I'm from pa so wondering
    But I thought you bought a marriage license (as is the law) and the ceremony is the religious part of it
    As long as you have the marriage certificate right, the law, the preacher shouldn't matter for it to be legal
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  • 2d Bride
    Champion October 2009
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    "With a regular congregation" would not described anyone ordained by mail, unless somehow they were conducting services every week and had people attending.

    I would suggest getting a self-uniting license. You can then get married just with an agreement between the two of you, without an officiant at all.

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  • 2d Bride
    Champion October 2009
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    Nope, that's not the way it works. See this article about issues couples have faced with officiants ordained online:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/05/fashion/05marry.html

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  • Heather
    Expert September 2018
    Heather ·
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    I think I'm ok then
    We are being married by a preacher who was the preacher at my church when I was a child
    So she wasn' ordained online she had a congregation for many years
    Then she retired but she said she can do it
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  • Stephanie
    Expert October 2018
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    I checked with the clerks, and the information I got was "you can have a minister officiate your wedding (ULC) BUT It's in courts now, they can declare it invalid." They told me they wouldn't challenge it, if someone said they were a minister, then they are BUT the validity of your marriage COULD (not likely, but there is a possibility.) be pronounced invalidated. So she said if you want to take the chance you can, and you will be valid, but in the event a court rules it otherwise you are not married and said if your marriage comes into question you have to then prove your minister preached to a congregation, and they won't tell you, like another poster mentioned. So you are opening up a can of worms that can potentially be a headache in the future.

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