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Stephanie
Savvy October 2018

huge Dilemma: Has anyone ever demoted and/or fired a Maid of Honor?

Stephanie, on February 21, 2018 at 10:16 PM

Posted in Family and Relationships 37

Now, proper etiquette states demoting and/or firing a MOH or BM is a huge no-no and you should be prepared to potentially lose that friendship. While I am usually one to respect said proper etiquette, I'm thinking that now, any and all etiquette has gone completely out the window. I am truly stuck...

Now, proper etiquette states demoting and/or firing a MOH or BM is a huge no-no and you should be prepared to potentially lose that friendship. While I am usually one to respect said proper etiquette, I'm thinking that now, any and all etiquette has gone completely out the window. I am truly stuck between a rock and a hard place. I am very aware that I need to give my thoughts and feelings a little more time to process and I will come to my own decision in time, but I would greatly appreciate any and all sound advice, especially from those that may have had the same or similar situation.

Now let's get into the story and why I am asking this question....


My Maid of Honor, we will call her L, and I have been friends since we were 5 years old. So we are going on 24 years of friendship at this point. 24 YEARS. Let that sink for a second......Okay, on we go......we have never had any issue throughout our friendship, ever. Except for those stupid, meaningless fights we would get into when we were in elementary and middle school. You know the ones, that we can't even remember now. Just the dumb little stuff young girlfriends bickered about but then forgot about the very next day. Our friendship took a little bit of a hiatus some years back but that was due to going different directions in college, etc. Nothing out of the ordinary. We "reunited" as if nothing had changed. We always always maintained honesty with each other, always been able to trust one another, or so I thought. L still lives in our hometown and I moved away about 6.5 years ago, but I didn't move far. It takes 2 hours, tops, to get there or for her to come here, so we visit with each other frequently.

I promise, what may seem like too much detail, unimportant or oversharing all plays a part in this, so please bear with me as I continue on with the story.

L and I are getting married a month apart from each other this year, so we planned a weekend to visit with each other and attend a bridal resale show in our hometown, so I went up to visit her. This was the weekend of February 10th(a week and a half ago). I went up on Saturday the 10th, we spent the day at a bridal shop, she tried on a few wedding gowns since she hadn't purchased hers yet, and she ordered her MOH dress for my wedding. Later that night, we went out with her fiance, we'll call him R, for drinks. I was feeling kind of off all day, kept getting these weird sporadic headaches. Being in a loud bar was just painful at that point. I survived a couple hours and then she offered to take my back home and get me to bed to rest for the night. Since we all rode together, R offered to stay back at the bar while L took me back to her place. She then left to go back to the bar to get R. As I was getting ready to lay down in her guest room, my fiance called to check in and see how I was feeling. We talked for a little bit and then I went to sleep. The next morning, Sunday Feb 11th, we attended the show. We were there for about an hour or so, her mother accompanied us. We grabbed some lunch after and then headed back to her place so I could gather my overnight bag and hit the road home.

Fast forward a few days, it is now Wednesday, Feb 14 (a week ago today), we texted a little bit, but not as much as usual. No big deal, wasn't worried about it. Thursday evening rolls around, she tried to call me but I missed it. Called her back, no answer. A few minutes go by and she texts me "Sorry I was in the shower, you can call back now." Called back, conversation started off normal. In the middle of chatting, she asked me if I could FaceTime her. Sure, not a problem at all. Didn't think anything of it because we FaceTime regularly. Once FaceTime connects, we start chatting again. She seemed a little different but I was trying not to think into it too much. Fiance and I had just met with our videographer an hour or so prior so I was updating her on that, just catching up in general. Now from here, she goes on to hit me with a grand slam. And to make it easy to follow, I'm going to list the conversation in text form:

L: "So it was really nice that you were able to come up and visit this past weekend..."

Me: "Yeah I agree, I really enjoyed it."

L:"But I'm missing something from my room, and I think you know what I'm talking about..."

Me: "Okay, but I don't know what you're talking about."

L: "I had money in my room and now it's gone."

Me: "Okay, and that involves me how?"

L: "This money has been there for the past two weeks, you came to visit and now it's gone."

Me: "I did not taking anything from you. I would never do that to you.

L: "You were in my home, alone, for 2 hours..."

Me: "Yeah, in the middle of the night, sleeping off a migraine! You actually think I went into your room and stole from you?!"

L: "I know finances have been tight lately and stress and desperation can do a lot to a person."

(Once she said that, I completely lost it)

Me: "Wow, I can't believe you just said that. Sure, things have been tight temporarily but I am an adult and I have always managed to keep our finances in order and get the bills paid on time. I never expected you to use a struggle I confided in you with against me. Just because things got tight for a moment doesn't mean I'm going to go and steal money from someone!"

L: "Well, yeah, you don't have to steal from anyone now because you found my money and hit the jackpot. I never expected to be having this conversation with you. This is not an easy conversation to have. This has been weighing on me all day today. And all day yesterday I was thinking about it. That's how I spent my Valentine's Day, thinking about this."

Me: "I'm sorry but it's not my fault you had a bad Valentine's Day and I'm having a hard time feeling bad about that because I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!"

L: "I don't know what to believe. The money was there, you came to visit, and now it's gone. There is no other explanation."

Me: "I can't believe you actually think I would do this to you. What do I need to do? Send you screenshots of my bank account? Dig through all my belongings on FaceTime? What the hell do I have to do to get you to believe me?!"

Mind you, this was all on FaceTime, so we could see each other. This went around and around in a big circle for about 10 minutes. I realized that no matter what I said or how I said it, she wasn't believing me. She had her mind made up that I did this. I got so angry that I threw the phone on the ground and cried harder than I have ever cried in my life. I was devastated. My heart felt completely broken. After a few short moments of silence, I hear her say, "I have to go," and the FaceTime call ends. My fiance picked up my phone off the ground and I asked him to please call my mom. I have never stolen anything in my life. I have never disrespected someone in such a way. I was beside myself. I knew my truth. I knew that I did not do this and all I could hope for at that point was that the truth would come out.

Fast forward 3 days, now we are at this past Sunday, February 18. The fiance and I went out bowling with a couple close friends. He thought perhaps a "Sunday Funday" was in order to help raise my spirits a little bit. While bowling, a text from L appears on the lock screen of my phone.....

"I need to talk to you today, I have made a horrific mistake. I am driving to you right now and hope you will talk to me for even 5 minutes."

While those 3 days from the accusation to when the truth came out were 3 of the longest days and uncomfortably sleepless nights of my life, I was relieved that it all came to fruition and my innocence was found. But my heart still broken. I agreed to talk to her. BUT...fiance and I had to meet with one of our wedding vendors briefly after we finished bowling. I told her we were busy and I would meet her when we were done. By the time we finished up and got home, she had been waiting for an hour and a half. I walked up to her car and she was a mess. This was the first time, in 24 years, that I had seen this girl cry like this. I had never seen that big of an emotional mess. She found the "missing money" earlier that day. She found it......wait for it......IN ONE OF HER OTHER WALLETS! She pulled the cash out of the bank, stuck it in her wallet but then never put it into here "money spot" in her room. She forgot and it sat sitting in this unused wallet for weeks. I mean, seriously?! How do you not think to check any and everything, including wallets, purses, clutches, etc, before going and accusing someone?! Anyway, she thought it best to come down and apologize to my face. She knew she messed up, BIG TIME. I don't know how many times she apologized, too many to count. She said she doesn't deserve to be my maid of honor, she doesn't deserve to be a bridesmaid, she doesn't deserve to be in life and she doesn't even deserve my agreeing to listen to her. But I gave her a chance to explain herself and the whole situation. Once I allowed her a chance to speak, I made it very clear how it made me feel and what my thoughts were/are. I am hurt, bad. And in no way am I justifying the accusation she made against me but there were certain parts to the story that I could understand, to an extent. Could it have made sense for me to do it since I was alone in her home for a little bit? Sure. It could have. But regardless of the reasoning, it all comes back to this one thought/question/concern: After 24 years, how could you believe, even for a second, that I would actually do that to you?

Had she worded it and approached it differently, say along the lines of "Hey, you didn't happen to see any cash in my room or know what I might have done with it, do you?" or something like that. Or had she even given herself a few more days to remember where it was, this all could have been avoided. But instead, here we are. Now I'm left hurt and confused. Relieved that the truth came out but still heartbroken as ever. I have had a few days to think on this, and while I don't want to cut her out of my life completely, because her apology truly is genuine, and while I know she is not a bad person, she royally messed up. I will give her props for being able to swallow her pride and admitting she messed up, that is not an easy thing to do. And, as of right now, I am willing to, at some point, try to repair the friendship, but I am very aware that it will never again be what it once was. Even before all of this happened, one of my BMs, who I originally considered for MOH, has been far more of a MOH than L ever was and taking on the responsibilities that L "didn't feel comfortable doing," and I am considering promoting her, as she has proven herself far more caring and deserving. Especially since said BM, we will call her D, has been wonderful through this struggle, letting my vent and voice my thoughts and feelings, she has remained a neutral party, not speaking of or thinking ill of L at all.

But regardless of D, I am stuck on this whole situation with L. This is not easy. I never imagined having to deal with something like this, ever, especially with my oldest friend. I have told her that I need time to process this and she is respecting that but I am still completely devastated. She bought her MOH dress while I was up there, so I feel bad about that. And while I shouldn't feel bad about hurting L's feelings, I do. I feel terrible about all of this. And while I don't want to just completely throw the friendship out the window, when it comes to the wedding, it doesn't seem right to keep her as MOH. Even though the truth was found, this awful accusation was made, along with taking some jabs at me, and that alone, seems like grounds for stripping her of MOH rights. She mentioned that if I decided to keep her as MOH, this has made her want to be better at being the MOH. Well, I didn't want something potentially life-ruining to be the reason you finally stepped up to the plate. It's not right.

Now keep in mind that, as of right now, I have agreed to trying to repair the friendship, after some time has gone by for me to process this. So the thoughts/concerns/questions that keep arising in my mind are:

1. Is there anyone out there that has had a similar situation?

2. Do I just demote her from MOH and keep her a bridesmaid?

3. Do I release her from the bridal party altogether?

4. Can anyone lend me any sound advice?

I am not looking for disrespectful or rude replies. I am truly torn here, even though the answers may seem obvious, being in this position is not easy and I don't wish this on anyone. So please keep in mind that this is a very heartbreaking situation that I am struggling with deeply.


I apologize for the ungodly length of this post but I greatly appreciate any help!

Thank You.

37 Comments

  • P
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    Woof, but it sounds like she is apologizing and basically has her tail between her legs.

    I think since she is so remorseful you have to give her another chance, but keep an eye on it. Forgive but don't forget.

  • Amanda
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    Agree with all other PP's. I wouldn't throw away 20+ friendships for this. Your friend drove 2 hours to come see you in person to apologize - if that's not genuine, idk what is. Give yourself time to heal and build the trust back up. You would both probably feel pretty awful on your day if you weren't standing up for one another.

  • Alforev
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    This was a lot to write for something so simple. She made a mistake. She acted poorly toward you and she drove to you to personally apologize. And you’re still angry? 20+ years of friendship and she makes one mistake and you want to throw it away? Doesn’t sound like you valued this friendship very much. Honestly, she could have been panicking and stressed out. If you cared about her you’d accept the apology and talk with her about why she lost her temper so easily, ask if she was okay. Her accusing you of something you didn’t do and then apologizing later is not the worst thing in the world. We all make mistakes.
  • Daria
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    I'd forgive her and keep her as MOH. I think your friendship can be stronger for it. She's obviously under a ton of stress and maybe not handling it as well as she could be, she needs a friend more than ever. I agree with PP that since she drove a 4 hour round trip to apologize in person she clearly recognizes the severity of her mistake. If you had gotten an "oops, sorry!" text message, I might feel differently, but in this case...your BFF literally means BFF. I have literally no one in my life, outside of immediate family, that I have ever kept up any kind of relationship with for that long, I can't imagine walking away from it over a misunderstanding, though it was a pretty giant one. I think your friend learned from her mistake and won't make the same one again.

  • EM
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    This is your best friend. She f-ed up. She acknowledged that she f-ed up. For the record, I actually don't think it's crazy that she jumped to the conclusion that she did. She could have gone about the conversation with you differently, but it sounds like the confrontation was just as hard on her as it was on you.

    Unless her friendship isn't as meaningful to you as you let on here, I don't see any reason to change your plans whatsoever. Why continue to hurt her when she made a misguided judgement?

    I get why you are hurt, but I really don't understand why this is something you won't be able to move past to get back to where you were before.

  • Stephanie
    Devoted October 2018
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    When I was in high school, my best friends boyfriend threw a Halloween party, and I went with her, this was the first and only time I had been to his house. About a week after the party, someone slashed his tires. My best friend called me, saying I was the only person who didn't already know where he lived, and now his tires are slashed, so it must be me. (It wasn't.) I, like you, was absolutely livid, like how the hell are you going to accuse me off slashing his tires? I didn't have a car, or my license at the time, plus the kid was one of my best friends. Fast forward a couple days, and a neighbor came forth with his surveillance footage and they found out it was 3 guys that did the damage.

    She never apologized. To this day -11 years later- I still think it's absolutely ridiculous that she even considered it could be me- but, when you're in a situation like that, you're reaching for any explanation, plausible or not. We've been friends for 23 years at this point, and she's part of my wedding. It seems like your friend is genuinely sorry. I wouldn't be able to throw away a friendship over this, ESPECIALLY if she instantly called you, and hopped in the car to drive two hours to apologise in person, nor would I demote her or remove her unless she really feels like she can't be part of it.
  • MrsBlah
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    I think it's interesting the people that said they would have also assume you stole the money, yet emphasize how youve been friends for 24 years.
    I have a group of friends that I consider my best friends. We have been friends for over 20 years. I know them. Because of that I would NEVER ASSUME they stole money from me if money is missing.
    I think what she did was very hurtful. Yes, she's owning up to it, but that doesn't take away how you feel. I would honestly be in the same dilemma. And, while I don't certainly know, I would probably ask her to just be a BM.
    However, at this time, I would just wait and think a bit longer about your feelings and what you think you should do.
    I don't actually think we can tell you what to do, as you can see some people think it's not a big deal (I disagree).
  • M&M Bride
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    I can only imagine how hurtful that must have been. However, I wouldn't remove her from the bridal party. She has realized what a terrible error that she made and drove to apologize in person and is taking full responsibility for her actions. I would take some time to process the situation, but I wouldn't want to lose such a long friendship over a mistake (a terrible one, but a mistake).

  • KatieLaine
    Savvy October 2019
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    Please note that I have not read anyone else's comments/replies to this post. That being said, I can't help but wonder what would have made her honestly believe that, after an honest friendship of 24 years, you would have stolen money from her stash. It just sounds to me like something(s) have been weighing on her mind and you were the target of some blame.

    Regardless, it was big of her to come to you in person and profusely apologize. Something like this will need to take quite some time to heal; but you're probably right, things may not be the same. I had a friend, we were friends since the 4th grade, and one day in our college years, she decided to just cut me out cold turkey. No idea what I did wrong, but she somehow managed to mind control the other three friends (to which I had introduced her to), and all of them just stopped talking to me. It wasn't until 8 years later, I was in a friend's wedding (I was the MOH, and honestly, I should not have been...I felt super used, but that's an entirely different story), and my ex-best friend's MOTHER was the hair stylist!!! Well, nearly 9 years went by before I finally messaged my ex-BFF and we reconnected. But it is DEFINITELY NOT the same. We're more like very distant friends. It's heartbreaking; as I had considered her like a sister and would have probably made her MOH over my own sister. ANYWAYS...sorry...back to the point...

    As this is new and fresh and she came to you as soon as she realized her mistake...I would say, take some time to think on it. I would promote or demote just yet. I *would* be honest with her about how you feel, and be truthful about how D has really helped, and that, if Like still wants to be the MOH, she and D should maybe team up?! You can always word it as, "I still want you to be my MOH, but as you have your own wedding to plan as well, maybe, to help with stress levels, you could team up with D... She and I have discussed..." Such and such...and go from there. ?!?!

    I hope that all helps. I'm so sorry you had to go through something like that.

    Best of luck, darling!
  • MrsNerd
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    That really sucks. She made a huge mistake and was totally in the wrong. And then came back apologizing. But after 24 YEARS of friendship, you’re the one not forgiving her.
  • QueenDavis
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    I would forgive her and leave her as the Maid of honor since she expressed how sorry she was, but I would let her know that it will take time to get things back to how they use to be. I had a best friend who was a legit thief, and it is the main reason why she is no longer a best friend nor is she in my wedding, and going around telling everyone I didn't want her in my wedding because she was to dark. We have known each other since we were 3 YEARS OLD!!! We are going on 33 this year, 30 plus years, and this heffa stole from me, lie on me, told rumors about me, and never apologize for it. So not only is she not in my wedding but she is not even a guest.

  • S
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    I recently ended a friendship with someone who treated me like L did to you but I ended it because she took zero responsibility for her actions. Your friend knows she messed up and she was very clearly upset over making her mistake. You also provided a valuable teaching lesson to her. She didn’t handle the situation well, she didn’t approach you appropriately, and she’s aware of that. I wouldn’t fire or demote her. If she’s uncomfortable and steps out, that’s fine. I don’t think you should do anything because it will come off as you punishing her. She has probably already been punishing herself internally. You have been friends for 24 years and that’s not something you just throw away. Let time and communication heal your wounds.
  • FutureLadyH
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    I love that she owned up to her mistake and apologized. I wouldn't demote her, but if she chooses to step back from the wedding party, hopefully you understand. I think this situation will cause her step up a bit more as far as her duties as a maid of honor. If it were me, I'd do everything possible to be the best MOH going forward.
  • PrincessLawrence
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    I can not say I have been in an a exact situation but I did have issues with my MOH. When I was first asking all the girls I invited them to a dinner at my house to ask them and she "forgot" and was already home (she lives 45 minutes away) and would not come back. I was really upset cause it took alot of time to plan and I had told her about it for weeks. I had considered not asking her, but there was no one else that I really wanted to be my maid of honor. I did end up asking her, and though she at first didnt really want to come shopping with me or anything I got over it and had other BM and my mom. Now that its closer she does so much stuff and I am glad I gave her another chance as I am so thankful for all she does.

    Then there was a situation where I was the MOH and I tried to do EVERYTHING for the bride as I wanted to help any way possible. My FH was the usher in there wedding and she waited till like 2 months before the wedding to go pick out tuxes. Well when I found out his tux was $220 I tried to explain that really was not affordable for us (other people agreed it was super expensive) and that if he was actually standing in the wedding I would understand spending that much but he was just an usher. Well all hell broke loose, names were called and I pulled from her wedding 6 weeks before. (Before that tension was high and we had agreed that she should not be in our wedding as we just were not that close, I shouldnt have ever been asked to be her MOH as we had known each other for about a year and had become close but not that close, however I was just excited about it so I said yes).

    What I am trying to say is take some time and think about it as I did in both situations and I lost a friendship with the second one, but I was not really hurt like I would have been if I would have done that to my MOH now. And I know your situation is way bigger than mine, but friends do stupid stuff I know from experience, but how you handle it shows how strong your friendship is.

  • FutureMrsW
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    I would honestly just tell her you need to take some time and then take a step back. I absolutely sympathize with your feelings here - I would be very hurt too if someone that close to me accused me of something before checking all other avenues/having any viable evidence - but I agree with others that your friend seems extremely remorseful and genuine in her apology and that should count for something. You still have a little while before your wedding, so I would take a good month or so to let everything pass and think about this logically rather than emotionally (as you are now).

    It's difficult to say what I would do as I haven't been in this exact situation, but I would probably give her a pass and try to move on from it. You guys have been friends for 24 YEARS without any major issues - that's a huge deal! Everyone also makes mistakes; just unfortunately for her, it was a big one. You're right in that your friendship may not be exactly the same, or at least not for the immediate future, but I would try to let some time pass and then reconnect with her later on and let her know how it made you feel and ask her about her thought process and why she came to her original conclusion. Hopefully you guys will be able to come out stronger in the end because of this.

  • Meet_The_Clarks
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    OP- you have gotten some very great advice/feedback here. I can be a petty person (at times), however, someone accusing me of stealing from there would be rough. That's basically attacking my character as a person. 24 years is a VERY long time to be friends. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what we (random people on the internet) say. You have to go with your heart and what feels to be the best decision.

    If I were you, I'd let this be for now, talk with FH and other friends about feelings. I wouldn't make any decision just yet. She clearly feels bad for her actions- which says alot about her character. My advice- give yourself some time to process the emotions, her apology, etc. If you make a decision now based on pure emotion, you may regret it later down the road. I truly hope you can repair things. Good friends are hard to come by these days..at least for me. Best of luck OP! Please come back for an update!!

  • falkenmarried
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    While what happened is hurtful, she clearly feels remorse. She drove 2 hours just to apologize and waited another hour for you.
    She cares about you.

    i wouldn’t demote her, I think the day of, you two can put it all behind you. Focus on the present and try not to punish her for a mistake.
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