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How can I manage my parents' expectations about my ltr boyfriend and I getting engaged?

Rachel, on December 20, 2020 at 8:09 PM Posted in Family and Relationships 0 17

Hi everyone, happy holidays!

I wonder if anyone has been in a similar situation and may be able to offer some advice. My boyfriend (24M) and I (24F) have been together for the past 4 years (our 4 year anniversary was this past July), we've been living together for the past 2~2.5 years. We have a very loving, stable relationship. Both of us are working full time jobs (remotely due to COVID) and are financially independent (paid off our student loans). We have seperate saving accounts but share many expenses and do have some (low value) joint belongings like furniture and etc. We usually take turns inviting each other out if we go to dinner, and have a very balanced approach to how we spend money on each other. We have a general "what's mine is yours" approach to finances. My BF told me that the day he got his first post-grad job, and it's been a strong motto for us since. We've discussed marriage, raising a family together in the past and have very similar life goals and values.

My parents live nearby and our within our immediate bubble of people we see regularly. We've been taking the necessary precautions to feel comfortable spending the upcoming holidays together. Anyways, I was over for lunch the other day at my parent's place and my parents started bringing up the question of an upcoming engagement or wedding.

My parents know my boyfriend very well, they have a very close relationship. I'm also very close with my boyfriend's immediate and extended family. We've been doing holidays / vacations together for the past few years, and are definitely very well integrated into each families/social circles. I'm practically an older sister to my BF's younger siblings, and his parents absolutely adore me (and vice versa). However, my parents haven't met his parents yet. The assumpting being (amongst my family) that they would invite my BF's parents to the city and their house once we got engaged (for a more formal meeting of the families).

Over the past few weeks my parents have been increasily curious, and are making more and more comments/questions about whether or not we'd get engaged any time soon. My mother keeps saying we've been together for a "very long time," and that if we are thinking of making any moves together (perhaps moving to a new city for one person's job, maybe buying our first appartment) we should also be thinking of taking the next step in our relationship (which I agree is sound advice). My parents come from a relatively traditional background, are religious (but not very observant). My mother has been asking me whether or not my boyfriend has brought up the question of engagement, or if it's at all in the cards. She wants to know whether or not I think it's a serious relationship. I tell her it is, but can't really provide a more complete answer because I'm not sure exactly how my boyfriend feels about it.

My parents want to, very graciously, donate to us their 1999 model Jeep car since we're thinking of getting a new car (we bought a very discounted one right out of college when we moved apartments together). They don't use the car anymore at all, and would rather give to us then try and sell it. I don't feel comfortable accepting any large financial present from my parents before he and I get engaged, because if we're going to keep heading down the road of acting like a married couple (having joint financial assests etc) I would prefer to make it official.

He's told me before he wants to marry me, but isn't sure of when he sees himself proposing (so it could be next year, or maybe even 3-4 years potentially). Sometimes he'll say "Yes you know if things keep going well the way they have then I definitely see it happening in a year from now, maybe sooner, maybe later, but I do see it happening" which feels rather vague so I don't fully know? Is it alright to want to ask for somewhat of a timeline of what he's thinking about? Sometimes when I ask he says "I envision my life with you, it's just a matter of time before I actually propose and I don't know when that is." In his ACTIONS I know he is very, very committed, but for some reason the thought/topic of an enagement seems scary to him when we sit down and talk about it (that's the vibe I get when we discuss it together).

I've told him that's totally ok, I respect that, he doesn't need to give me a strict timeline, but on the flip side I don't know how to feel about making joint financial decisions/moving for jobs with him etc, and I certainly don't know how to talk about the topic with my friends/family. I'm not sure how to handle the situation with my parents, especially with the holidays coming up soon. I worry they'll ask him outright if he has any intentions of proposing soon.

When my BF talked to his parents about marriage/the future of our relationship (he told me this later on, after the fact), they told him we were "incredibly young" yet when my BF's BFF (23M) got engaged to his (22F) girlfriend after 1.5 years together (which has, until very recently, been only long distance) they had nothing to say on the question of age! Thought it was totally "normal" and "expected." They told him, in regards to our relationship, that marriage was forever and he should be absolutely, beyound a doubt sure, that he should take his time until he felt fully fully confident, even if that meant waiting a few extra years. I think it's fair advice, I just, maybe expected them to use, maybe slightly different language? Or demonstrate that they are receptive to us taking the next step, especially given how much they openly love me, support our relationship, and have told me on numerous occassions how excited they are that we're "all family"? Idk what to make of that situation either. We are young, but we've had a very mature relationship for the past few years, and I'm starting to feel a little ticked off about the language they are using to describe our relationship.

A lot of our other friends have been getting engaged recently. I'm very very happy for them, but after seeing countless engagement posts online from (almost) every we know in our general social circle, I'm starting to feel quite alone, as if there's something 'wrong' with our relationship because we are one of the only one's not getting engaged? I think this is partly because they all seemed to get engaged after dating their partners for much shorter amounts of time (maybe between 9 months-1.5 years on average). I see so, so, so many posts of people celebrating their engagements/showing off their rings, and I'm starting to wonder if maybe I'm doing something wrong? Of course I realize it's mainly just social media exerting it's normal, psychologically unhealthy effect on its users. No matter how mentally strong I am, I don't know how to handle the external pressures. It's taking a bit of a toll mentally, and I don't want it to cause any animosity or resentment between my partner and I.

tl;dr My parents keep making comments insinuating they think / expect / want to know whether or not my boyfriend is thinking of proposing soon (within the year or so). How can I handle this delicately with them since I don't really know myself and don't know what to say?

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Latest activity by Annika, on December 21, 2020 at 6:56 PM
  • Belle
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    Belle ·
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    I think there is no perfect time to get engaged or married. You can date a year and get married, or you can stay unmarried but happily living together. Some even say, it’s just a piece of paper 🤷🏻‍♀️. Every couple is different. Don’t feel pressured to do what you guys think you are not ready or simply want to wait just because. I am married since 18 yo, he is 5 years older than me. If I can go back in time, I probably wait until I am around 25-27 yo, but we just never know. If you don’t feel comfortable talking about engagement yet, simply tell them. It’s your life. Not theirs. Enjoy 🥂
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  • Mrs. Spring
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    I recommend you smile at them and politely say that tou appreciate their interest in the relationship but you and tour SO plan to get engaged and married within your own time
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  • Michelle
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    Your boyfriend will propose when he is ready. Pressuring people makes them not want to do things. Parents need to stay out of this.
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    "When it happens, you'll be the first to know." Honestly, it is no one's business but your and your boyfriends. If you feel like you are ready to get married, than I would have a serious conversation with him about what it is that is giving him pause. My husband and I got engaged by having this type of conversation. We were talking about our goals/plans for the next 5 years, and we decided that marriage should be part of that. We then told our parents and he got a ring for me afterward (he insisted I have a ring). It was a mutual decision we made together after discussing our plans for the future. I would suggest that having a similar heart to heart with your boyfriend may be helpful. However, I would also urge you to push aside the expectations of others and focus on what is specifically right for you as a couple. We had been together for 6 years, living together for 5 by the time we got engaged.
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    I agree with the above; inform them it’s really none of their business and it’s quite obnoxious they keep bringing it up. We were together 8 years before engagement, but we accomplished graduate degrees, no debt, traveled the world, and lived in other countries... it was then that he proposed. He was perfect timing. Your bf will propose when the time is right for the both of you!
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    THANK YOU.

    OP this is your life and your future, you cannot allow what other people think is appropriate in their mind's dictate your life. There is no "magic age" to getting married, it's all about the couple and when they are ready for that commitment. I know 40 year old's who are still not ready to get married but also know friend's who got married at 22 who are still married today in their mid-30's. Y'all do what works for you as a couple and don't worry about the opinion's of others. Good luck and let us know how things work out!

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  • Caitlin
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    This really depends on your relationship. Theres people that have been together for 10 plus years and they get engaged. Then theres people who know each other for 3 months and get engaged. He has to be ready. It sucks to wait.... In a serious relationship i think by the second year they either know or they are just messing around and not taking it seriously.. The parents definitely dont get a say in your relationship. They can jokely bring it up. Other than that. Butt out.
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    Yeah, it's interesting I actually think the conversations with my parents are somewhat helping surface feelings I already had and didn't feel validated in sharing/expressing. It's brought to light that he and I actually have different opinions on committment now compared to when we started dating. I'd happily take that step, not because other people are pressuring me, but because it is something I personally feel ready for, and finally feel like it's ok to want to talk about/expect committment. My BF often has the "well nothing wrong's why fix it, why take a step right now we don't need to take" kind of attitude, and we're not on the same page fully. So, I'll have to wait for him to decide how he feels, what he wants. In the meantime, I have to set boundaries for myself and stick to them, which will be hard. He and I have different understandings of when/how we should commit, what constitutes "committment." I'm definitely having to draw back and re-evaluate some elements of the relationship, for example, I wouldn't feel comfortable buying an apartment with him until we get engaged, nor would I feel comfortable following him across the country/abroad without a more formal form of committment. These are situations we'd be facing within the upcomig year-two, so I'm happy that these conversations with my family are at least encouraging me to be honest with him.

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  • Chrysta
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    This is such a healthy outlook. Good for you for looking within and being honest about your wants and needs in your relationship, now and in the future.
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  • Rebecca
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    I would recommend couples' counseling for a few reasons:

    1. To work through these thoughts! This is what DH and I did *before* we got engaged, because I was very much ready, and he wasn't quite.

    2. Counseling is always helpful in establishing boundaries with those *outside* your relationship, and also within it.

    3. A good counselor will help you strengthen communication skills - particularly if you already have a healthy relationship (our therapist called us her strongest clients, we took to calling our sessions our "tune up"!).

    4. Since you're not currently on the same page, counseling can help you re-align.

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  • Mrs. Coakley
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    Both of your families are influencing your personal decisions way too much. You guys are both independent, autonomous adults and should not be considering the wants/needs of your family when it comes to personal matters like marriage. I think couples counseling would be beneficial for the both of you, as you seem to weigh heavily on your families' opinions rather than those of each other. Decline the car and work on your relationship. Everything else will follow suit.

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    Hmm, I feel like the title of your post and the content of the post aren't really the same thing. A lot of posters are telling you to deflect your parents' questions, but I don't think nosy parents are really the issue here. Especially with your update, it's pretty clear that it isn't about your parents pressuring your BF to propose, it's about YOU being dissatisfied with the lack of forward movement. Am I right?

    I think you need to have an open and honest conversation with your BF. Sit him down early in the new year and lay out what your goals are for your life, where you see yourself in 1, 3, 5 years etc. Ask what his goals are, see how they line up. Talk to him about marriage, ask if he is ready, if not, why not? What does he want to happen before he proposes?

    I think your BF has the idea of "why take a step right now we don't need to take" because he is already getting all of the benefits of marriage without having to make a commitment (you are getting those benefits too, but it sounds like you want to commit). Commitment is a big and scary thing - but that doesn't mean that one half of the equation gets to stall and string the other person along. If you are not in a place to commit, that's fine, but you have to be prepared to accept the consequences if that is the case.

    But don't frame it as your parents/friends/whoever want to know when you're getting engaged...make it about your life and your future, because it is! I would hate to see you back here in a year, two, three with no forward progress in your relationship.

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  • SLY
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    I completely understand how you feel, because I was in a very similar situation! My FH and I have been dating for almost 7 years now, and he just proposed in July of this year. My mother was VERY upfront and blunt about her concerns, and even told me to give him an ultimatum (propose, or I'm gone), which to me, isn't the right way to go about this situation. Our friends were also getting engaged, marrying, and buying houses, so I felt like him and I were 'stuck' while everyone else was progressing with their lives. It hurt my feelings, and I was honestly very jealous.

    I eventually just sat him down and told him how I felt, and that I wasn't giving him an ultimatum, but if he didn't see a future with me, he needed to let me know so I could move on with my life and find someone that wanted that with me. He told me that he wanted to make sure that he could financially support me on his own if he needed to, and it was more of a 'him' issue, than a 'me' issue. Talking it over helped a lot, and eased my worries because I was able to understand why he was taking so long to propose.

    When it comes to your mom, just let her know that you both will get married when it's the right time, and that pressuring the subject will not produce a proposal any quicker. As for his family's concerns, it just sounds like they're being parents. I wouldn't expect them to react the same to his friends getting engaged and you both getting engaged the same way. So don't take it to heart!

    Ultimately, you both need to just sit down and talk it out. It sounds like he does see a future with you and wants to marry you, but isn't sure when he should ask. There isn't a perfect or right time for these sorts of things! Let yourself breathe, and trust your relationship and partnership.

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    It starts with just you, a few ? then making a list:
    Do you love him? .....
    Think you will care enough to stay together during hard times , 3 years of one of you losing a job , and only finding temporary fast food cashier type jobs or worse, and the loss of self worth to one and a loss of equality for the one who is earning all the money, and there after school and 10 hrs each weekend day while the one not earning much is off hours when no one is home , enjoying all kinds of pastimes , while worker bee is home all the hours kids are not in school or day care? .........Will you flip if he gets a better job thet involves being 3000 miles from your family with a 5 year contract? .... And lists. what do you want in the future, what could you survive without, what would make you walk away ( it could be just being bored.)By job, income level, Amenities, children , how much contact with your family, how much with his.Still looks like you are ready to marry him, forever? Tell him you have been doing a lot of thinking. Then ask him to marry you. Within a year. And see what he says. If you are equals who are both capable of well paying jobs, and both self supporting or more, why can't you propose? Waiting for him is not getting you there. Hope he says yes If he says no, there needs to be concrete things that change, will they happen. Or he will say no, with more of the same, and you have to decide, is this enough for you? Will you be okau with living together 2,4,6 years, with no commitment? Or is it time to make other plans. Rings are not necessary to propose, or to be engaged. Hope you get what you need for a happy future.
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    Yes, I agree with this. This is not really about your parents. It's about you and your boyfriend not being on the same page and you being hesitant to bring up important topics. The fact that your OP asks, "Is it alright to want to ask for somewhat of a timeline of what he's thinking about?" tells me you two have some communication issues to work on. I second the couples' counseling recommendation.

    You are entitled to want to get married soon. Your boyfriend is entitled not to want to get married soon. But you both need to be able to talk about what you each want and what that means for your relationship. Just because you're a woman and he's a man doesn't mean you have no choice but to just wait patiently, silently, while he decides what he wants to do.

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  • Kari
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    First, I'd separate your feelings about when you should get engaged/married from those of your family and friends. If you are fine with how things are going and don't feel the need to rush to the next step, then you should express that and be firm with your parents and others to stop pushing. If you feel like you are wanting to be engaged/married because its right for you (not because other people or doing it or because you feel pressure from family), then you need to open up a conversation with your boyfriend about it. Also, its rude to ask "When are you going to get engaged/married, have a baby?" so you could also just tell other people to bug off regardless of how you feel.

    We have close friends who started dating in college, moved across the country together, bought a house together, had a dog together, and in a relationship for 9+ years before he asked, then had a 1.5 year engagement. My husband and I started dating in our early 30s, and we were together for 4 years, living together for 3, had a dog, established careers, no debt, etc before he asked, which felt like a long time because we knew we wanted to try for kids and uteruses have a time limit. I'm pretty sure he decided it was time, found a ring, bought it, and asked me all within the span of about a month, and we planned our wedding for 9 months later (that got ruined because of Covid, but that's a different story). We have other friends who've been together for quite a while and just got engaged, and when I asked her about it she said that two years ago they had discussed getting engaged in 2020.

    Every couple and every timeline is different, but no one should be prying into your plans, and at 24 you have plenty of time to enjoy much of what life has to offer without being married. In particular, with a pandemic happening, now would not be the time I'd envision wanting to get engaged or married if there wasn't a rush to do so, and even if your boyfriend wants and is ready to propose, he might be waiting until you can both celebrate those events with people that love you. You should try not to compare yourself to other couples around you and what they are doing.

    Also, you can always ask him to marry you, if you want to. I knew my husband was the person I wanted to spend the rest of my life with pretty early on, but I knew he needed more time to be "all in" so I waited for him to make the move. Even though the timing ended up being really cruddy thanks to Covid, I still don't regret waiting for him to ask because when he did he was 100% ready without any doubts, and he wanted to marry me and to be my husband and for me to be his wife, not just for us to be engaged because that was the next logical step and it was time to progress our relationship according to societal standards.

    I'd say, have more conversations with your boyfriend about your future together, including marriage, finances, whether or not you want kids, what kind of parent you think you'll be, what kind of house you want, etc. Having conversations about the future - your career and life goals, etc - will help the marriage conversation come more naturally.

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  • Annika
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    THIS. My husband and I have been living together for 2 years, been together for 4.5 years and we just got married at (20me and 22him.) We knew we wanted to be together forever very early in our relationship, despite being high school sweethearts, parents who dont approve or like DH, and being long distance for almost 2 years. Parents should not be involved in the proposal or engagement process. They can be happy and celebrate later but this is about you and your boyfriend. My parents have hated DH even before we were dating but that didnt stop us from becoming happy and getting married all on our own. ❤❤❤
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