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Just Said Yes March 2018

help - needing to get married on short notice

Pous12, on January 23, 2018 at 9:13 AM Posted in Etiquette and Advice 0 18
Looking for some serious advice. My boyfriend (and yes, I say boyfriend...hear me out), my boyfriend and I have been dating for over 5 years now. We were going to start planning a wedding once I was finished with school, however, I recently got accepted into a very rigorous 4 year doctorate program so the wedding idea was sidelined until i was due to graduate and have my own job. My boyfriend was originally here on a student visa, he is from the UK. He applied for a renewal of his Visa over the summer but we just found out he didn't get selected (visa selection is a lottery process- the immigration process is really dumb). His Visa is now expired and his work authorization runs out in June. He will have to go back to the UK and there are a bunch of rules about how long he has to stay there before he comes back etc...it's just a huge mess. So we have decided to get married and apply for a green card. Only issue is that we would have to do this by the end of March at the latest. That is NOT enough time to plan a wedding, it's barely enough time to get the paperwork together. This has all happened so quickly that the engagement ring still hasn't arrived, technically he hasn't formally proposed yet. Everything is happening out of order, which is ok, but my mom is worried about how we will explain this to people. We think we will have a civil ceremony followed by a small marriage celebration in March, then immediately begin planning a religious ceremony for about a year and a half later. We really want to have a ceremony with all of our family and friends present but that is not in the cards for March due to this crappy situation. My original thought was that a civil ceremony is a marriage, but not a wedding, since a wedding is a religious affair. However, I am concerned that might not be the "appropriate" way to go about this. Maybe planning a renewal of vows in a year would be a better option? We wanted to still have "bridesmaids and groomsmen" standing up there with us even if we don't call them that (since we'd already be married). And we'd like to do the rehearsal ceremony the night before (it could just be a renewal of vowls reheral instead of a wedding rehearsal). And a special dance at the reception with my father and with my husband. It wouldn't be a first dance, but I still feel like it is okay to have a special dance on your special day with your loved ones. We want this to have similar aspects of a traditional wedding without stepping on any etiquite toes. As far as I know there is not specific way to have a renewal ceremony, so I don't see a problem with having it mimic the aspects of a traditional wedding as long as the church is on board with the verbage of the ceremony. Our family and friends are all clued in on everything and there are no secrets. We have the full support of everyone involved, we would just like some advice since it seems no one else has been in this situation before!


Anither thought: if we were able to pull if a very small chapel wedding followed by a small gathering afterwords to celebrate, would it be appropriate to do a registry at that time? Or wait till the renewal? No one can agree on when to do a registry. It just seems wrong to have one if we aren't having a wedding where everyone is invited (civil ceremony). But at the same time, some people say it's tacky to have one for a renewal. This is a very strange place to be in and traditional rules are all out the window, just looking for some sort of guidance! Please help!

--stressed out soon to be bride

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Latest activity by anna, on February 3, 2018 at 6:37 AM
  • Jurnee
    Expert May 2019
    Jurnee ·
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    Wow, that is alot on your plate! Get married, then yes, have your "Celebration of Marriage" at a later date. I would do the registry at the Celebration of Marriage as well.
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    Pous12 ·
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    This is what I wanted to do! I've had some very traditional people tell me I can't do that, it's tacky, etc...and I know I can't make everyone happy. Also it's not their day, it's ours. But I just wanted to make sure I wasn't totally off the mark
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  • TPMD
    Dedicated May 2018
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    Have you looked into the visa process? I would be careful going about it this way as it is technically visa fraud to get married with the intention of staying in the states without the appropriate visa. Obviously it happens and can be done (I know people who have done it), but I would recommend speaking to a lawyer. I am from the UK and am hopefully coming to the end of the lengthy K1 visa process (we're looking at about 9 months from start to finish of the application process), which when it's finished means I will be able to come to the states with the intention of getting married and living there legally. The other legal option is to get married in the states and then file for a spousal visa (he can't be in the country for this, but is allowed to visit on a tourist visa).

    Whatever you decide to do, I recommend getting legal advice as it's not as simple as just getting married and getting a greencard.

    In terms of etiquette, I think everyone will understand, you gotta do what you gotta do. At the end of the day what matters is you are getting to marry the person you want to be with and the complications that come with international relationships mean that people will have to understand or at least accept the limitations put on you because of your position.
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  • Sunshine
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    I don't think I've ever seen a registry for a vow renewal.


    I would have a conversation with your church before doing anything. Some can be pretty strict about having a "wedding" after already being married.

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    Pous12 ·
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    He is here legally. His Visa recently expired but he is still authorized to be here to work until work authorization runs out in June. He can't leave the country during this time bc his Visa is expired and he would not be able to get back into the country. He is however, still in the US and his company is paying for the lawyers to sort our marriage info out for a green card. It's not fraud if it's a legal marriage and he is here legally. We just have to get green card documents submitted no later than 3 months before his work authorization runs out. When you apply for a green card they extend your worth authorization until a decision has been made to make an adjustment if status.
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    Just Said Yes March 2018
    Pous12 ·
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    We are actually meeting with my church's Reverend this afternoon to discuss options and what he thinks is appropriate. I just wanted some other unbiased opinion from some people who don't personally know us!
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  • TPMD
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    Ahh ok, I just read "his visa has expired" and assumed it was an overstay, I didn't realise he has a separate work visa. Either way, I personally don't see any issue with getting married and then having a celebration of marriage at a later date and I really don't understand why people do have issues with it. There is no dishonesty going on, so if people don't like it then they don't have to go. I have no idea about the religious aspect though, I'm sure if you explain it to your reverand you will be able to come up with a solution together.
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  • LB
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    I think it's fine to do the celebration of marriage later but I wouldn't have a registry. Just seems gift grabby to ask that when people weren't invited to the actual wedding.

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    First of all breathe.

    Second, talk through your options with an immigration lawyer. And continue breathing.

    Next don't start running mental circles about school. PhD and other similar education programs are real grown up jobs. Don't get yourself worked up about that at all, although I will say congratulations and way to go! Typically when people talk about finishing school before getting married they are talking about under graduate programs or trade school. Many many graduate students are married, often to other graduate students. And continue breathing. Smiley smile

    Ok now wedding/marriage details, if you choose to get married in March that would be your wedding. A wedding might be a religious event for some but it is always a legal one. If you are unable to have the big event you would prefer at that time due to the short time line, do the mature, grown up, adult thing and accept that life is sometimes difficult and that we don't always get what we want. Plan a simple but special event. Invite a few important people such as parents, siblings, best friend's. Find an officant (do you have a relious leader? Or check rhe vendor tabs) Get a pretty dress and a bouquet, hire a photographer (maybe a student from your school), and go to a park/someone's home/the pastor's study or chapel/a restaurant/something else inexpensive. Have your wedding and take your guests to lunch, pizza and beer is acceptable. Wow you just had a lovely wedding! Breathe happily!

    Now if in the future you choose to have a vow renewal, that's fine. Just remember that it is a renewal and treat it as such. This goes back to being adults had making and owning adult decisions.

    If you want to register go ahead and make a small one now;bedding, towels, dishes, flatware. I'd stick to the basics. If someone chooses to get you a gift having an idea of of you taste is a good thing. Just don't expect to receive a lot. Registries aren't done for vow renewals but there's no need to take your registry down after the actual wedding.

    Blessing to you as you figure it all out. Remember to breathe!
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  • AugustBride
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    I think right now its more important to get your situation all settled. Have a small wedding and then plan a bigger wedding later.

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  • FutureMrsKC
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    Agreed with above, settle your situation, worry about a vow renewal at a later date. If you're having a small celebration now when you get legally married, I wouldn't even register. I also wouldn't register for your renewal since it's not "technically" a wedding. You're kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place right now, but at the same time I certainly wouldn't be worried about small things like registry's and bridal parties at a time like this.

    Side note: Did he not know his visa was running out? I don't really know a lot about visas but rereading your initial post it seems like you had a great plan with schooling and everything but I really hope you aren't just getting married to keep him here. Of course, I'd never accuse that on anyone it just seems super rushed that he just now realized all of this and now you're on a time crunch.

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  • Mrs. Fall Bride
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    You lost me at "My original thought was that a civil ceremony is a marriage, but not a wedding, since a wedding is a religious affair."

    Weddings are not necessarily religious affairs, and it's not nice to imply that if it's not, it's not a real wedding. And no to a registry, it's rude to ask for gifts for an event people aren't invited to.

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  • An
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    I think your plan sounds good. I don't see anything wrong with the dances, dresses, bridesmaids/groomsmen if you want to have those since you are not pretending this is your wedding date. I do personally think a registry is a little tacky at the renewal as you will already be married. Also I wouldn't do a shower or bachelor/bachelorette parties before the renewal.

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  • MOB So Cal
    January 2019
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    Agree about 1st priority being seek legal counsel.... We have family friends whose daughter was marrying a man from the UK. They had everything planned when at the last minute it came up that immigration law required him to go back to UK, and go through a big process before they could get married. He was here legally, I believe on a student or work visa. It was a mess. The whole wedding had to be postponed for almost a year. It was super stressful for everyone involved. Get good legal advice FIRST before you do anything else!

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    Have the civil ceremony and then when you are ready have the celebration of marriage and include all the things you want. The first dance, bridesmaids/groomsmen, bouquet toss etc. Forget the specifics of the civil ceremony and have the ceremony/celebration you want. You will never please everyone and in the end it only matters what you and your other half want.

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    Get married at the courthouse or something along those lines. When you have time to plan a wedding for real, have a reception and even do a vow renewal if you want! Take a deep breath and good luck!
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  • anna
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    I’m getting legally married in the States for visa issues (don’t ask) and then having a wedding in the UK so his mom can come. We are not having a registry for either, and we just want to celebrate with everyone. I’m mainly inviting family, and everyone knows about it, and no one seems to have an issue with it. Just do what you want, get legal advice, and do it properly. Good luck!

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