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Marcia
Expert March 2021

Guest gripe about black tie weddings

Marcia, on July 15, 2020 at 9:37 AM Posted in Etiquette and Advice 1 29
I'm in that stage of life when all of my friends are getting married, and literally every wedding so far has had a black tie dress code. However, the weddings haven't been black tie in the traditional sense. I don't so much have a problem with people flexing the black tie rules, but then at every wedding, half the guests are NOT in black tie, because they didn't feel it matched the event formality. With every wedding being black tie, I spend the money to rent a gown and have FH rent a tux (after our wedding, he will just use his wedding one, but until then we are stuck renting). I feel like it's rude to ignore the couple's dress code, but I also feel like the couples I ask about it don't mean strict black tie, they just don't want khakis and tiny clubbing dresses. I'm in a real quandary about whether to keep renting gowns or to just wear nice dresses I have. Has anyone else experienced this?

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Latest activity by Judith, on July 22, 2020 at 11:01 PM
  • Julie
    VIP February 2020
    Julie ·
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    They're probably doing black tie optional rather than black tie. If I were you, I'd just buy a long dress that's inexpensive but that you feel great in and just wear it for wedding season. Your FH can just wear a darker suite with a solid tie. You won't be underdressed
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  • Margaret
    Master October 2020
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    I would just use nice dresses. You don't have to rent dresses.

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  • Marcia
    Expert March 2021
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    This is a great idea! I think I'm going to look for a black or navy dreas that I can just repeat for the events. I'm glad you think FH can just get away with a suit, that is a lot more doable for us.
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  • Julie
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    Perfect. Unless they specify tuxedos in the invite, you'll be good. Out wedding was black tie optional ("Dress deluxe, No Tux") and everyone wore a suit and tie and (mostly) appropriate dresses. Lol there's always gonna be a few girls who wanna show off what they've been given
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  • D
    June 2021
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    Yes I agree with that as well. Especially the part about a long dress. It’s just enough of a middle ground to meet what seems to be the expectation of couple. Although I will admit, I agree it is very confusing and sort of a waste if it’s not a fully black-tie event.
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  • Rebelle Fleur
    Master July 2021
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    I agree with Julie. A dark dress will serve you well. Changes in hair/makeup, shoes, and jewelry can completely change the look of a dress.
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  • Marcia
    Expert March 2021
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    I like dress deluxe, no tux. Might steal that for my wedding!
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  • Julie
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    Do it! My mom came up with it (many) years ago for my Bat Mitzvah
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  • Taran
    Expert September 2020
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    Thank you! It's like no one understands what wedding dress code really means. Everyone I know wants black tie and then when you show up it's more along the lines of semi-formal. It's infuriating spending so much time making sure your dressed appropriately when you could've just gone to TJ Maxx and bought a cocktail dress for $30. I found a floor length navy dress for a black tie wedding in April and will definitely be keeping it around for future weddings

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  • MOB So Cal
    January 2019
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    Agree with others that you'll be much further ahead if you just buy a long "fancy" dress or two. Depending on where you live, keep an eye on Macy's sales in their formal wear dept. All through high school and college we'd hit the after-prom season or after-Christmas sales and would find gorgeous gowns for as little as $20 (and not "junior prom" teenage styles) for daughter. For daughter's wedding I found an excellent MOB option on sale for less than $20 (David's carried the EXACT same dress for $180 at the time...). We found different Macy's stores have very different stock depending on their demographic market, so if possible look for a big store in an upscale suburban area or shop online. The dress I ended up wearing as MOB was a gorgeous Calvin Klein formal gown -- it wasn't on clearance, but with coupons, etc., I paid about $100 when it was tagged at ~$240. I agree that FH can get away with a black/dark gray/navy suit. Personally, I think it's rude to claim an event is "black tie" when it CLEARLY is not actually a BT event with all that entails and it kind of makes the inviting couple look like they are either clueless or want people to look "extra" for their photos even though their wedding does not match that expectation.

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  • Hanna
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    I completely agree with Julie!

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  • Marcia
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    I really do feel like people don't understand what each dress code entails! We need an Emily Post explainer so all of us can be on the same page haha
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    Master July 2019
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    Yeah, I definitely get your frustration. You cannot just request black tie. If you request that your guests go through all that trouble, you need to actually meet the standards of a black tie even. Unless you know for sure there will be valet parking, a multi-course dinner, top shelf open bar, a band playing, etc. then you are probably safe just wearing cocktail attire.
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  • Marcia
    Expert March 2021
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    Based on the real standards of black tie, I have literally never been to a true Black Tie wedding. I didn't even think about the fact that they might want their wedding to look fancier in pictures. One couple told me they thought it would be "fun" to see their friends all dressed up, but I wish they had thought about whether or not it would be fun for the guests.

    As I've been looking for bridesmaids dresses, I have seen awesome sample sales. I'm going to keep my eye out for a bargain!

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  • Meghan
    Master October 2019
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    Totally agree with this.

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    Legend June 2019
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    I would just wear nice dress you have aha I’ve been to weddings where they ask for cocktail attire or the event is obviously more formal but people still come in whatever the heck they wanna come in that’s super informal that they’d wear to McDonald’s on a regular day. People unfortunately sometimes just wont follow the dress codes.
    It’s nice you follow it well as a guest though.
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  • Jasmine
    Master August 2021
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    I know it's probably redundant but its better to be safe than sorry and just ask the couple. There's also black tie optional and creative black tie which both options give you more leeway than the strict black tie attire.
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  • Leanne
    Super September 2020
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    I put formal attire on my invitations. I’ve gotten a lot of questions from older guests, because back in the day “formal” meant what a true “black tie” does now.


    I put an attire page on our wedding website, with example photos.

    But to your point, there’s so many inexpensive places to shop for dresses. My mom, and aunt found their long gowns at Ross for $30...and look wonderful.
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  • MOB So Cal
    January 2019
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    I've read too many posts on this forum from brides determined to tell their guests their wedding is "Black Tie" because they wanted them to be dressed up so the pictures looked good, but they were also dead set on a bbq buffet and a cash bar.... I agree about the potential benefits of an Emily Post-type guidelines resource, but there are also so many posts claiming those types of guidelines are "old-fashioned and irrelevant." Usually etiquette guidelines focus a lot on what's good/respectful of the guests' experience (just what you wished your friends have done!). Good luck finding an awesome black tie appropriate dress for all the non-black tie weddings you're attending! Smiley winking

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  • Marcia
    Expert March 2021
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    I completely agree with you that there's a trend of people claiming that etiquette is "old fashioned and irrelevant" when it gets in the way of what they want to do and they don't consider that most etiquette rules are made for the comfort of those around us. It's a tough time to be a wedding guest! Maybe WW can write some articles to help turn the tides around on this one.

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