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Just Said Yes August 2021

Divorced Parents. Help with Mother's Husband (invite or not).

Trent McAllister, on May 24, 2021 at 11:25 AM

Posted in Etiquette and Advice 33

Sorry if this is a bit long, but there is a lot to unpack to give you guys an idea of the serious pickle I'm in (along with FW, but it's not as much her issue, and she's firm in standing by whatever decision I end up going with) . Brief rundown on the background of everything. My parents split about...

Sorry if this is a bit long, but there is a lot to unpack to give you guys an idea of the serious pickle I'm in (along with FW, but it's not as much her issue, and she's firm in standing by whatever decision I end up going with) . Brief rundown on the background of everything. My parents split about 9 years ago, right when I was wrapping up college. From what I gather my dad screwed quite a bit of stuff up, and became emotionally attached to his best friends widow, so my mom couldn't take any more and left him. She met a guy, they started seeing each other and my dad started trying to "get her back" or at least have a period of time to work on things, in which her BF told my dad in so many words to go pound sand. At one point there was an altercation where my dad was pissed off trying to confront them (possible threats) and the BF had called the cops, in which my dad was precautionarily arrested. Needless to say there is bad blood there. Fast forward, my mom decided to marry this guy despite none of my siblings or even her friends really liking him. He's not the worst guy in the world, but does seem a bit manipulative and rubs you a bit the wrong way, it's hard to put a finger on. So anyways, my dad can absolutely not stand this guy, like can not be in the same room, and there have been essentially 0 interactions between my dad and moms husband all these years except 1. My mom made sure "everyone" was invited to my brothers wedding 2 years ago, and it did not go well. My mom and her husband were there and my dad as well (he has not had any sort of significant other all these years). Whether he was or not my dad felt like my moms husband was taunting him, he got super pissed off couldn't control himself and chose to see himself out not long after the reception started before there was an altercation. So now 2 years later lucky me gets to deal with the same crap for my wedding, and we are needing to get our invites out ASAP. Side note, I have an excellent relationship with both my mom and my dad, but obviously completely separate and totally different relationships as they do not talk. As for the invites my dad has made it pretty clear that he will either not go (along with my aunt and uncle who are very much on his side) if my moms husband is coming or if he does force himself to go in that case it will be extremely uncomfortable and there is a high potential for a scene to breakout. My Mom has also made it very clear that she doesn't want to go if her husband isn't invited because she will feel disrespected and that I am not "doing the right thing" by inviting everyone. They have effectively put me in a damned if I do damned if I don't situation. The hardest part is that I totally understand where they are both coming from, it is also not right of them to put me in this situation. My current leaning is that I don't really want my moms husband there, because he is literally only in my life because my mom married him and he should not be the reason anyone goes or doesn't go. My Mom will feel like I'm choosing my dad over her if I decide not to invite her husband, but I feel more like I would be choosing my dad over him (not over her) as she can still come without him. Really he is the common denominator for all of the issues. Yes I wish my dad could get over it and try to ignore the guy, but he won't, the guy is too much of a trigger. And yes I wish my mom could get over it or if her husband was like "ya I get it, you need to be at your sons wedding and I don't want to be the one to cause issues, so I'm cool not going" but he won't because I think he gets off on our family drama. Another thought I have is telling them both they can't come if they either one of them tries to make an ultimatum. IDK, this is a huge pickle I'm in and any advice or thoughts on the matter will be greatly appreciated. Let me know if you need anymore info, and sorry for the long rant. Thanks in advance!

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  • MOB So Cal
    January 2019
    MOB So Cal ·
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    Our SIL is in a family situation somewhat similar to yours, but it's his mom who issues the ultimatums and causes the drama. Daughter and SIL have taken the approach that they love both his parents and want them in their lives, but if they choose not to attend something because the other will be there, that's on the one making that choice. They got married a few years ago and things worked out okay; we made sure his parents were on opposite sides of the room, etc. (Although, we found out after the fact that his mom had a "fight" with his dad's girl friend in the lady's room.... )

    This isn't an issue that will likely go away after the wedding, so you and your fiance might want to take into account how you want to handle this in the future -- with holidays, grandchildren, etc. Daughter and SIL have taken the consistent stance that both his parents are invited and whether they attend or not is their choice. They are NOT going to host separate events to accommodate his parents' pettiness. If you don't want to be put in this same position again and again, draw your boundaries now and stick to them. Good luck!

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    Super April 2021
    Tiger Bride ·
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    This isn't the way we talk to each other on this forum.


    The only thing I went off is what you said, no imagination necessary. It doesn't take a degree in psychology to see that your dad isn't comfortable with your mom being remarried. If you can't see that your dad is the aggressor here, that's your problem.
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    NewEnglandSettler ·
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    You’re asking to speak to his manager? LOL..


    Don’t chase the future groom away...he shared a valid concern...writes respectfully and isn’t complaining about a bridesmaid gone rogue. #trifecta
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    Super April 2021
    Tiger Bride ·
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    He didn't speak to me respectfully 🤷🏻‍♀️ in his own words, his dad made threats, was arrested, and can't conduct himself in public. Isn't that how every Friday night 20/20 special starts out?


    Let's expect a bit more from men. They can do it.
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    Frankly, you are letting a tantrumming child, your dad, walkover every one. He has decided in advance that he may not behave, may act out?The answer is, if you decide to behave like an adult, and simply ignore things you don't like, you are welcome. But if you can't do that, Do Not Come.
    Don't think growing past being a spoiled child is any sign of loving you. It is dysfunctional. Pathological. It does not get him what he wants, for you to choose him over mom ( because that is who he is out to mess up, he does not much care about the guy except as a way to get to her. And to get you to put her happiness aside in favor of Dad. He sees himself as more important than anybody else. And if you let him, this Narcissistic type demand will appear for the next 20 years. Your mom, or her husband, may or may not like your husband, but they accept him because he is the man you choose. That is how marriage works in a family. It would be a slap in the face for your molther to have you choose anyone over her husband. Your dad has the same deal. Come, behave like an adult, enjoy the day. It is your father who won't. Don't punish your mom or her husband.
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  • devotedlydavis
    Expert March 2022
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    Personally, I think all of them need to grow up. The one thing your parents should be able to agree on is that you (their kids) are their priority, especially on your wedding day. It’s a shame that they can’t set aside their differences for one day.


    I would invite them both but have an honest conversation with both of them. You want them both there BUT you and your bride should be the focal point that day. If at anytime they feel like they can’t get along or be in the same room, then one should quietly excuse themselves and leave. I honestly get where your dad is coming from because my dad never got over my mom after their divorce, even though it was his fault. I know it’s tough on them to see their former spouse with someone else, but I’d ask him to bring a friend so that he has someone to keep him company and his mind off your mom. I’d also sit them on separate sides of the room, not facing each other.
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    Just Said Yes August 2021
    Trent McAllister ·
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    This remains to be seen. Talked to my sister today after going through the discussions with everyone here and let her know we are inviting everyone. She respects my decision as being right for us and I told her I respect her decision as what's right for them. So I'm happy that I'm on the same page with her, and it feels like a weight has already been lifted now that I made an official decision on what we are going to do. Still have work to do on having discussions with the necessary parties which is ok with me now, fingers crossed everything goes smoothly haha.

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    Well congrats, that’s a big step! I’m glad you and your sister are on the same page. I wish you the best of luck! And just remember, as long as you and FW are there that’s all that truly matters.
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  • KYLIE
    Super May 2019
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    The right decision is to invite them all, and let them know if they don't behave, they will be removed. I'm glad you've come to that decision. I 100% would hire security personnel; this is the exact thing they are trained to look out for and mitigate.

    There is zero reason to use such disrespectful language about Tiger Bride, who offered a perfectly reasonable outsider's perspective and didn't make any inappropriate personal jabs to do so.

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    Just Said Yes August 2021
    Trent McAllister ·
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    Thank you, I think it is the right one as well. Regarding Tiger Bride you must have missed the part where she is calling my dad a “dangerous person” which was wildly inappropriate and a very serious thing to accuse someone of being while knowing very very little about them. Some opinions are best left to yourself, especially if it’s taking a “personal jab” at someone’s complete character who you don’t know. I simply called her out as out of line, and what I said was no more disrespectful than anything they said, she just didn’t take my response well. I responded accordingly, sorry if it seems disrespectful or harsh.
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  • Samantha
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    Pretty sure Tiger Bride was referencing that your father has been arrested as a result of confronting your mother’s husband, and stated he would not refrain from further confrontation at your wedding. I truly understand the fog that surrounds this type of family dynamic, and the resultant rug sweeping. Your father could be the hero here, he could tell you that he will control his temper and that he guarantees you will have a lovely wedding.
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  • Lisa
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    I'm sorry your having to deal with this, you shouldn't have to worry about your wedding being ruined, or "your parents" giving you ultimatums and threatening that they won't come "IF" you / or don't do________________. You can fill in that blank with whatever you want, and explain your situation, but I have answered 1000's of these scenarios, and my answer is always the same. #1 Your parents are selfish and really need to grow the f--- up. #2 Your parents also need to understand that.. This isn't about THEM or what they want, and you're NOT a child anymore. Finally #3 that you had NO control over their divorce, therefore they have no right to make this YOUR PROBLEM. You need to respectfully tell them that you will no longer allow them to do this anymore. Tell your mother you will talk to "her husband" and explain to him that, he will be invited as a guest, however he will not be included in your family photos or events. You have a father, and a mother. If the three of them have a problem with that, tell them to grow up, call their bluff, and say you DO NOT want any of them there.
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  • Katie
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    I agree with a lot of previous posters - you invite all of them and have a conversation that you expect them to behave themselves and anyone who can't will be escorted out of the event. That way, any one of these parties is responsible for their own attendance. If your dad can't be responsible enough for himself to keep away from your mom's husband for a few hours and decides not to come for that reason, that is very sad but it's his choice. Accordingly, if he attends and chooses not to behave himself, that's his choice as well. I have limited sympathy for grown adult men who "can't help" but get into a confrontation with another adult. I'm not sure if dad, mom's husband, or a combination of the two are the biggest issue here but it doesn't matter - either everyone comes together for the bride and groom or they don't and the show goes on without them.

    OP, sorry you're in this situation. I have a pair of guests who will probably be "if he/she is invited, I'm not coming" - and frankly, if both of them don't come I will go about my business. There is one of the pair that I prefer to the other, but I won't dictate anyone's actions by inviting her and not inviting him. They'll both get invitations and decide for themselves whether they can bear the other's presence that day. It is easier for me because they are extended family members, not parents in your case - but you will find life easiest if you don't make choices on behalf of others and make them responsible for their own decisions and behavior.

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