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Jessica
Just Said Yes August 2020

August Brides in Southern California

Jessica, on May 27, 2020 at 2:00 AM Posted in California Planning 1 8

Hello all. TLDR at the end for those that aren't interested in the rant. My dream wedding was supposed to happen on 8/8/2020. Fiancee and I had this date picked out even before we became engaged. Shortly after the engagement, I chose a venue. All my decisions were made fairly quickly, and I was an ecstatic and well-organized bride-to-be. Then Covid-19 struck. Uncertainty struck. Our venue has claimed that they will reopen completely by end of July, following closely to CDC guidelines and county regulations. However, a majority of our wedding guests are older, high-risk, are traveling from out of town, or work on the front lines of this pandemic. Not to mention, I have an autoimmune disease myself that makes me more susceptible to infections. I am not putting myself or my family and friends at risk for a stupid wedding.

With all that being said, postponement is not an option for us. We have planned for this date for far too long to just let it slide to a Sunday in 2021. Hell to the no. We reached out to our venue. They offered to postpone with no fees, but fiancee and I immediately turned that down because we wanted our date. Second option was to lower the guest count BUT pay the same amount as you would for a full staff accommodating 150 guests. What? How does that even make sense? (Not to mention a majority of our family is NOT comfortable with even attending). Or, of course, cancel and lose our deposit + 45% of our total invoice; roughly $15,000 for a wedding that we won't get to have because of safety and health concerns. All I want to do is cancel this wedding, get my money back (and heck, I'm even willing to let them keep my deposit because of all the troubles they went through for tastings, coordinating, etc.), and have a small backyard elopement.

I understand the perspective of my wedding vendors. I understand that they need money to keep afloat, and I understand that we signed a contract. I myself am a small business owner and am also going through not making any income for the past four months (I'm living off a small chunk of disability that won't even come close to paying half my mortgage). But how binding is a contract during a pandemic? Isn't it a moral responsibility for companies to keep everyone safe? Am I legally allowed to hold the venue liable for anyone that potentially gets sick at my wedding?

FYI our venue is [seven-degrees] in Laguna Beach, Ca. As much as I fell in LOVE with the architecture, my coordinator, and the overall scheme, the way that they're treating us right now makes up for the huge mistake of planning a wedding there in the first place.

Please help a girl out. We're going to meet up with our family lawyer on Friday, but before I take that step, I want to know if there is anything else I could do that doesn't involve attorney fees that I can't afford right now. I wanted my dream wedding and was still willing to have an open conversation with the venue regarding a lowered head count, but their responses to me and the greed that they showed has completely turned off the nice button in me.

If the law is what I have to turn to, has anyone else gone through the court systems with a case like this, and please tell me they ruled in your favor.


TLDR; venue is being stupid and won't refund us our money. Is legal action necessary? Will I get my money back if that were the case?

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Latest activity by Teresa, on May 27, 2020 at 9:47 PM
  • Karla
    Super February 2020
    Karla ·
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    So sorry you’re going through this stress.


    I think this is all going to come down to what your contract states regarding refunds. Is there an “Acts of God” clause in your contract? What does that include? I also know most venues have different amounts that become non-refundable once you get closer to the event date and that’s usually clearly stated in the contract.
    It sounds like your venue is trying to work with you regarding postponement which you don’t want to do (completely understandable!).
    The venue is suggesting lower headcount but same F&B minimum in order to not lose profits that they would have made if they were to host the full 150 guests (which by the sounds of your post, it seems like the venue believes they can accommodate if CDC guidelines allow it).
    I think the only thing you have wiggle room of arguing is that you originally contracted for a Saturday event and should be able to reschedule for a Saturday in 2021. You can also wait to see how many guests California allows events to have. If regulations only allow 100 people and your contract is for 150 guests, you may be able to argue that?
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  • Jessica
    Just Said Yes August 2020
    Jessica ·
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    "If the [seven-degrees] performance under this Event Contract is subjected to acts of God, flood, fire, war, government regulation, terrorism, threat of terrorism, disaster, strikes, civil disorder, curtailment of transportation facilities, or any other emergency beyond [seven-degrees] control, making it inadvisable, illegal or impossible to perform its obligations under this Event Contract, then [seven-degrees] may cancel this Event Contract without liability for any one or more of such reasons upon written notice to Customer."

    What the representative of my venue told me is that they'd be able to accommodate 150 guests, but would have to split them up between upstairs and downstairs. Not to sound ridiculous, but I'm not spending $30k to have to run up and down stairs to celebrate with my guests. Overall, I just think the experience that we envisioned is impossible to achieve. Regardless, we're going to have some of the most important people in our lives not want to show up (or if they do, they'll be extremely uncomfortable). As much as I want people to come, I also want people to have fun. It's a party for Pete's sake.
    I am definitely hoping that California guidelines don't allow more than X amount of guests, because that would be a breach of contract on my venue's end. With the way things are being handled now, I can only assume that they will definitely try to use Force Majeure to their benefit to recuperate what they can. However, in this current scenario, they won't allow Force Majeure to be used to help their client (me).
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  • Courtney
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    I don’t have much advice other than want a PP mentioned, just sending you my best wishes! Have you considered eloping and postponing the reception to 2021? It’s certainly not ideal but that way you could still celebrate with loved ones after getting married safely on your original date. I’d understand hesitation with that though - then you’re going to have to deal with the venue into next year as well. I really hope you find a solution that doesn’t end in you losing so much money.
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  • Naikesha
    Super September 2020
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    So sorry you are going through this. i think that a consultation with a lawyer is necessary they know the Law better than you and I. i would look online for free consultations in my area first this way you know before even spending $$ if you have a leg to stand on.

    Good Luck with everything. and please keep us posted.

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  • J
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    Yeah things suck for summer 2020 brides. I ended up postponing my July 25th wedding and REALLY didn't want to do that as we have been engaged 18 months, we are older (40 & 44), and it seems silly to push off. But I couldn't see a way around making the event safe and have it be the wedding I wanted and paid for. Maybe your lawyer can take a look at things and figure out if you can cancel and get some money back. Sorry this is happening to you.

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  • RaylaSan
    Expert February 2021
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    Honestly, I hate to say it, but I feel like your venue is working with you to the best of their abilities, and I know this date is important for you, but I would postpone for 2021, and just get married on your date at the courthouse, and have a vow-renewal in 2021 with all the family and friends you invited? That way, at the very least, it won't be a complete waste of money.
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  • Jessica
    Just Said Yes August 2020
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    No doubt, they are! But as much as I agree with you, the experience that I paid for can't be imagined on my actual date, and that's what pains me. I understand that my venue is doing what they can do accommodate their couples via postponement. And although it is absolutely out of their control, I should still be able to have a celebration the way I want to, whether that's downsizing to a backyard wedding or cancelling altogether. I just don't think it's fair for them to not provide an option of cancellation for those that paid for their wedding to be a specific way and to be on a specific date. Bottom line is, I am not okay with moving my date or lowering my guest count if my venue will not compensate me for it, because that is not what we agreed to when I signed the contract.

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  • Teresa
    Devoted September 2020
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    I completely understand how you feel. Our wedding was postponed from April 2020 to September 2020. Which means its coming up real soon again. I would hate to have to postpone again.
    At this point for us it's more stressful to postpone than to loose the money. Everyone sees it differently so I would say go with what your heart desires. Everyone will have different opinions. You do you.
    If you feel like consulting with a lawyer to ease your mind then that would be best. Hope it works out keep us updated
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