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A.Magill.Since.May
Master May 2018

When to use: Miss, Ms, Mrs???

A.Magill.Since.May, on July 28, 2017 at 10:05 PM

Posted in Wedding Attire 34

So I was just reading another thread discussing social and professional titles for a woman and have a question not quite relevant to the thread (I know that professional titles like Dr trump social titles) I was taught growing up (in a social circle that screws up formal etiquette on other fronts)...

So I was just reading another thread discussing social and professional titles for a woman and have a question not quite relevant to the thread (I know that professional titles like Dr trump social titles)

I was taught growing up (in a social circle that screws up formal etiquette on other fronts) that an unmarried/young woman is Miss, a married woman is Mrs, and a divorced (or 'mature' unmarried woman, if that's her preference) is Ms.

Is this totally wrong???

I saw on the other thread some people saying a woman is only Mrs if she takes her husband's surname and Miss should only be used for girls under the age of 18... I had high school teachers in their 30s that went by Miss Smith because they had never been married and that seems totally normal to me.

ETA: if you are keeping your name (Jane Smith) after the wedding, would you be offended to be addressed as Mr.John Doe and Mrs.Jane Smith? Is that just totally wrong?

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  • Bea
    Dedicated October 2017
    Bea ·
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    That's hilarious because I was actually told the same thing growing up. Actually had a conversation with the FH and he cleared it up for me.

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  • Jennifer
    Devoted August 2017
    Jennifer ·
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    Once I get married I do not plan on changing my name, but I will go socially as Mrs. FHLastName. But overall i used Miss for young un married women, Ms. For older women who are unmarried or I dont know their "status" and Mrs. For married women and who wanted fo be called a Mrs. Smiley smile

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  • SpringBride2015
    Super June 2016
    SpringBride2015 ·
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    Actually I flexible. Ms or Mrs is fine. I'm in my mid 40s so no to Miss for me unless it's Missy! Lol.

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  • LemonadeSprings
    Devoted August 2017
    LemonadeSprings ·
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    I always thought mrs was only for those whose last name was the same as their husbands, ms for everyone until I am corrected and miss only for people under 18. Luckily I get to use Dr so I will avoid all of that although I generally won't correct people if they call me ms.

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  • karen
    Master October 2017
    karen ·
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    I would differentiate social from business situations. Where I work, all women are addressed as Ms. It is no one's business if anyone is married. Social, it is up to them.

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  • Tiffany
    Devoted August 2017
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    As a teacher, I get called Miss, Ms, and Mrs regardless of what the correct title is.

    I, personally, don't care what I'm called. I prefer Miss to Ms, because I hate pronouncing Ms due to the sharp z sound (I'm weird). Also, Ms makes me feel old, haha, and I'm 23. It is used on all the forms from my school though, and other teachers either call me Miss or Ms.

    Use Ms to be safe, and Mrs if you know they're married.

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  • Ms. B --> Mrs. L
    Super June 2017
    Ms. B --> Mrs. L ·
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    Historically, Miss and Mrs are the only two correct titles. Ms. was created by feminists about 50 years ago. I prefer Miss for unmarried women and Mrs for married women.

    I think it’s ridiculous to get your panties in a twist over which title people use.

    ETA: I’ve never met anyone who pronounces Miss and Ms differently. They’re both pronounced like “miss”. Most people I know don’t even pronounce Mrs differently than Miss either.

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  • karen
    Master October 2017
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    Ms. B- Mrs L -- socially, 50 years ago, Mrs. was also used for divorced women, and even now some do. Mrs. is also use by widows.

    A long time if Jane Smith married John Jones, and got divorced, she became Mrs. Smith Jones, as opposed to Mrs. John Jones.

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  • Leeee
    Devoted November 2017
    Leeee ·
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    A lot of us use Miss LastName as teachers. Maybe it's a southern thing?

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  • BohoRN2017
    Expert November 2017
    BohoRN2017 ·
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    But Ms. B -> Mrs. L and historically Mrs at one point had nothing to do with being married vs unmarried it was the equivalent of Mr. but as you know language evolves... Ms. has been around over 100 years.

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  • NerdyBride
    Super August 2017
    NerdyBride ·
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    I learned as a kid that "Miss" is only used for under 13 (in Judaism, you become an "adult" at 13), then you become Ms.

    As a teacher, I'm Ms. MaidenName, but I have a colleague the same age as me who goes by Miss Smith, so I suppose it's a matter of preference.

    Now, if I change my name, I'll be Mrs. NewName, but if I keep my current name, I would NOT (!!) become Mrs. MaidenName --that makes it look like I married my dad!

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  • WED18
    July 1993
    WED18 ·
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    I have always been under the impression that Ms was a feminist movement title to not differentiate between unmarried and married women, just as Mr does not. I also think keeping your maiden name is a feminist move as well and therefore would address women who do this as Ms.

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  • A.Magill.Since.May
    Master May 2018
    A.Magill.Since.May ·
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    That's a good point Wed18

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  • OGJessieJV
    Master July 1867
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    I've been Ms since I was old enough to sign my own designation. Personally I would never refer to anyone over 16 as Miss unless asked to. Same with Mrs, even if I know they're married. Mainly because so many people I know don't change their maiden names.

    Fun question: how long do you refer to boys as Master before you call them Mister?

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