#WhenYouWishUponAWelch
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Welch’s or Welchs or Welches??

#WhenYouWishUponAWelch, on May 30, 2018 at 4:30 PM Posted in Etiquette and Advice 0 36
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Hello WW!

My FH and I will be getting our engagement photos done tomorrow (yay!) and we are painting a wooden sign with his last name(my future) and est. July 13, 2019. It will read “The Welch’s est. July 13, 2019”
or that was the plan. Then FMIL pointed out that the apostrophe S suggests possessive so we should write Welches. But adding the E seems wrong to me and I feel like it should be Welchs or Welch’s. Any opinions or advice? Now I’m questioning it all...

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Latest activity by Judith, on March 10, 2019 at 6:01 AM
  • #WhenYouWishUponAWelch
    Devoted July 2019
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    Also this points out that family names ending in ch should have the ES? 😕😕

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  • Mrs. H
    Master September 2019
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    I agree with FMIL about it sounding possessive, but I wouldn't add the 'e' like she suggested. I would go with "The Welchs". My FH's last name is Hornsby, and we will be writing "The Hornsbys est. 2019".

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  • #WhenYouWishUponAWelch
    Devoted July 2019
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    She is definitely right about it being possessive, I didnt think about that until she said it. But yea, the E seems wrong to me. Its like a different name as opposed to the plural in my opinion
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  • Mrs. H
    Master September 2019
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    Yep, I agree!

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  • HowCo Industries
    VIP September 2018
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    Oh, I need to follow this! I'm to be a Collins and while I believe we'll be the Collinses and things we own will belong to the Collins', I'm always bad at this. (In my defense I was verbal very early and don't do well with grammar rules you can't hear in speech.)
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  • Tammy
    Super October 2018
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    My concern is that it makes people think that your last name is Welchs instead of Welch. I would have the same issue with FH last name and would probably use the apostrophe because even though it's not correct grammar wise you are setting yourselves up for people misinterpreting your last name. IE: I have a friend with the last name Adam and everyone calls them Adams and it drives them nuts. I assume if people see this sign they will assume the last name is Welchs/Welches.

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  • AQuixoticBride
    VIP July 2018
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    The -es is grammatically correct, whether it feels right or not. The apostrophe is absolutely incorrect.

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  • ThatGirl
    Super January 2019
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    Grammatically, it's Welches

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  • Going to the chapel
    Master July 2017
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    It would be the Welches. Follow the grammar tips that you found and posted.

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  • Kristina
    Master August 2018
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    Agreed. Whenever a word ending in -ch is plural, you ad -es to the end to make it so.

    Last names usually follow grammar rules as well!


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  • Susan
    Super November 2018
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    We’re going to be Mr and Mrs Leach. The Leaches. Haha we had this discussion early on too! It’s confusing
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  • #WhenYouWishUponAWelch
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    Right! Thats my concern too. I want it to be cleat that the last name is Welch, which is more important to me than the grammat I guess. Idk!! Lol
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  • HowCo Industries
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    This sounds right to me only if it's "The Welches", which may be what you want to do to avoid all of the argument.
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  • #WhenYouWishUponAWelch
    Devoted July 2019
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    So I think we are just deciding to remake the sign saying “Eric + Lauren Welch est. July 13, 2019” lol. Clears all that “s” nonsense right up
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  • AQuixoticBride
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    It would be clear to anyone who understands plural words.

    You could avoid the whole thing and have a sign that says The Welch Family.
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  • HowCo Industries
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    LOL! Just asked the FH and he wasn't even sure about things we'll own. Collins'? Collins's?
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  • #WhenYouWishUponAWelch
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    So much for our sign 😂😂 lol

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  • Mcskipper
    Master July 2018
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    I don’t think that’s a legitimate concern at all. In the Adam/Adams example, people are just assuming Adams because that is a common last name, and Adam is not. People default to the thing they know and it doesn’t have anything really to do with that S (examples: I have a Liebman friend who is mistakenly called Lieberman ALL the time. And a Costantine who is always called Constantine)...so people are always going to presume Welch (a moderately common name) as opposed to thinking your personal last name is Welches - a surname which may possibly exist but I have never heard of. If it’s “The Welches” it is super clear you’re talking about Mr and Mrs Welch, though possibly *someone* might be unsure if it’s Welch or Welche, no one will think you are Mrs Welches based on that.

    its one thing to omit the E, but the apostrophe is pretty cringeworthily wrong.
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  • Neffe
    Master July 2020
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    Hello! Adding an apostrophe would make it possessive, so the correct way would be to add the "es!" However, for the creative way in which you're using it, I don't think that really matters! After all, you both could be showing possession of your marriage! Like, "we own this!" Smiley smile

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  • Mcskipper
    Master July 2018
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    Lol I will say I have clients name Silverman and that always trips me up. Like “I’m here to see the Silverman...s? SilverMEN?! 😱”
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