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Breezy
Super January 2017

Time off from work for the wedding not accepted.

Breezy, on August 9, 2016 at 2:04 AM Posted in Etiquette and Advice 0 37

I'm in my cousins wedding in October. I was planning to take a week off so FH and I could complete wedding tasks (cake tasting *we already booked our baker, but choosing our flavors for our cake/cupcakes*, finalizing menus, dress alterations, going over linens and centerpiece mock ups).

All of this takes place in Florida and we live in Texas... It will be the last time we will be down there before our wedding.

My boss has known about me requesting off for two months (making it 4 months out) and last week he told me he was going to have to ask permission from our DM who then told me I can't have it off.

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Latest activity by NotThatFreakinMary, on August 9, 2016 at 1:28 PM
  • Breezy
    Super January 2017
    Breezy ·
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    I have to go down there. I have to finish planning.

    I can't choose cake flavors from Texas. I mean I'm sure I could, but I don't want too... That's not fun. We're losing out on that experience.

    My dress is in Florida... I can't get it altered if they don't have me to physically make corrections.

    We have to have another tasting with our caterer to finalize our menu... That's in Florida.

    Be been a part of my cousins bridal party for over a year... I already paid for everything. Im not stepping out. Im already not going to be able to make it to her BP.

    I feel stressed and like this is impossible to do right now.

    Before I took this position full time in January I was told by my boss that both trips (October and end of December until after the wedding) would be fine. We have temporary sales leads over the holidays so they can just take my spot while I'm gone basically.

    I don't know what changed because now he won't let me have October or the amount of time I will be gone for my BP and wedding in January. I never ask for time off. Ever. In fact I've worked all summer for them because I've been waiting for my time to plan the wedding in Florida in the fall.

    I work for a well known retailer of all things body and well bath related if you catch my drift. The whole company has become money hungry... They no longer care about associates. Over the past few months we have had a LOT of position changes company wide and our turn over rate has skyrocketed.

    I haven't left because I know the pay will be significantly less if I go anywhere else, and right before holiday I don't want to leave my store manager hanging because the quality of holiday hires is... Interesting.

    I'm thinking about stepping down and just being a regular associate because the only reason I'm not being granted my PTO is because October starts the Managers black out dates and well... I'm a part of management.

    We can financially afford for me to step down, and I've talked to FH about this but I just need an unbiased opinion. Am I wrong for being upset? Have any of you guys had a similar experience? How did you handle it?

    Also if I post then ghost it's because I should honestly be asleep right now. I'm just stressing... Thanks in advanced guys.

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  • O&L
    VIP September 2016
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    I am sorry this is happening. I would be upset too especially this is pre-planned before you take this position. Can you take half a week off instead? I personally would just call in sick but then I don't know your work policies so don't take my word for it.

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  • Kathleen Smith
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    Hi Breezy. I'm sorry you are experiencing this. Correct me if I'm wrong but upon being hired this past January you let them know about time being needed off in October and January. Did you let them know exactly how much time? And this was agreed upon verbally and/or in writing?

    If the answers are yes then you have every right to call them on it and see how they respond.

    Are any of the above answers "no"?

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  • FFW
    Master August 2016
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    This sucks. I never had a tasting of cake or menu and no one was there with me to buy a dress or for fittings. So I know it feels like your missing out. My advice is to make the best of it but dont quit or step down. As long as you can get the day pff for your cousin's wedding.

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  • Heather
    Super October 2016
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    This sucks but.. let your husband do the tasting on his own. And your dress, alter in Texas. There could be more than 1 fitting, and you need to get there on a whim if needed. There have been several things me and fiance had to do separately bc we are working with 3 different cities. Remember your job pays your bills. Even if they are wrong bastards

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  • onawho
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    Where in Florida is your baker.... I will taste your cake! I am in Tampa

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  • BeachBride
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    So I'm guessing your cousins wedding is also in FL? That's what ties this all together?

    Purchasing the dress in FL was silly. There's typically 2-3 fittings in the 2 months leading up to the wedding. Can you get the dress to TX and do fittings there?

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  • The Trap Selena
    Master March 2016
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    So hold on a second. Why is there blackout in October? Holiday season doesn't start until November and the store you work at (assuming I'm right about where you work) just finished the semi-annual sale isn't going to start getting insanely busy until holidays. Maybe your company is different from all the places I've worked, but I've never heard of the SM having to ask the DM for time off approval for an AM. Something doesn't sound right. Go straight to your DM and get it hammered out. You're not taking a week off for shits and giggles. You've made plans around SM's previous agreement and him/her backing out may cost you a lot of money.

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  • Stacy
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    Limited brands, if they're still apart of that corporation, is notorious for treating their management staff like junk. And, unless the pay is significantly higher than their bra counterparts, you can definitely find a job with as competitive of pay. However, that is your job and unless it is written in your contact or job offer, you may not have much ground to stand on when claiming it was guaranteed to be approved. Can you take less time off and switch shifts with another manager?

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  • Mrs. Sasswood
    Master October 2016
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    We had a saying at my old job, "if it's not on paper, it didn't happen." Verbal agreements don't hold much weight anywhere. But if you had a contract or something written that states "I would like this time off"; "you are granted that time off" then you are within your rights. Otherwise you'll have to keep trying to convince them. Or, let them know how shitty their employee policies/treaments have gotten and walk away since you said you would be OK.

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  • Punkin Beer
    Master October 2017
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    Ex retail store manager here. This is pretty standard actually. You're management and asking for time off in the ramp up to holiday sales season. There's inventories to do, plan-o-grams to complete, training, new merchandise, sales and promotions to learn etc.

    My old company had a vacation black out from October 1st to January 15th. You could take 1-2 says sure but anything more wasn't guaranteed/very likely to be not approved. Hell we were told to use our vacation by Sept 1st otherwise we would get no chance to use it before the new year. They were right. I lost 3 weeks. Smiley sad

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  • A&L
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    That sucks! Can u take 2 days off instead of a week? Do ur cousins wedding Sat and ur wedding appts Mon/Tue then back to work Wednesday

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  • Breezy
    Super January 2017
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    Thanks everyone!

    Yes, everything is taking place in Florida. I know it's silly I bought my dress in Florida, but I did and it's there not here.

    FH doesn't want to go to these things by himself because he doesn't know all of the questions that need to be asked. He can't try my dress on to get it altered for me either. Lol my cousins wedding is in Florida too, which I have to be there for rehearsal and the wedding in addition to the things I need to get done personally...

    We were planning on driving to bring the bits and pieces of decorations we've purchased down there as well because it's going to cost an arm and a leg to ship it all.

    As for it being weird for holiday starting in October... I 100% agree. We have a calendar that shows the year at a glance and shows all of the year with marks on parts you can't get off and those dates specifically don't have blackout on them... I didn't leaver during the SAS, so I'm not sure why she's being a royal pain about it.

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  • MNBride
    Master June 2017
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    I feel like there is always retail opportunities out there, I would look elsewhere. You may have a hard time getting off right away but you could maybe try and set something up to start after you get back and leave your current job just before your trip.

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  • Sarah195
    Master October 2016
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    I received an email from HR at my company 2 weeks ago asking me to rescind the days off I requested for my wedding because we aren't allowed to take unpaid time off and I used all of PTO up when I had my daughter in June. I was so pissed. They knew from the beginning I was expecting and getting married. But luckily I have a great supervisor who is working with HR to get me the days off that I need because he knows weddings aren't normal circumstances and I'm not abusing my PTO by calling in sick all the time. I hope your DM works with you!

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  • AnewH
    Super September 2016
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    I feel for you and if it was me I would probably say if you can't give me these days off I am going to have to step down so I can get them off. I work for a construction company and right now is our busiest time. My boss hasn't approved my honeymoon yet. He told me at the beginning of the year before I booked it that it would be no problem. I have already decided that I am going approved or not. My work doesn't get dumped on anyone else. It will be up to me to catch everything back up. When I was in college one of my favorite professors always used to say that if your boss ever denies you vacation time, then they aren't paying you enough because you must be really important to them.

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  • brieliz
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    I would have to agree that weddings aren't "normal vacation" it isn't like you will be taking this year after year. I would see if you can schedule a meeting with whoever said no and explain the situation. If not, and if you are ok stepping down, I guess I would do that. It doesn't sound like they respect you in your current position if they were so quick to say no when you have been open and upfront from the beginning and had approval. Stinks either way though!

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  • OG Brittany
    Master December 2016
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    Like PP's have said, see if they can just let you off for a few days vs a whole week. Unfortunately with a DW you don't get to do a lot of things like cake tasting, etc...We are having a DW, and we went for 1 weekend, and did as much as we could (cake tasting, flowers, photographer, etc...) It sounds like you guys already had 1 tasting? Do you really need to go back for another one? Most people only go for one I thought? As for your dress, I would see if the bridal shop can ship it to Texas, because you will have multiple fittings leading up to the wedding. So I'm not sure how you would have been able to make it work in the first place. It probably won't be cheap to ship, but it will at least solve one of you dilemmas. Hope everything works out!

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  • AMW
    Master September 2016
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    I would talk it out with your management, but I think stepping down is perfectly acceptable. It's not just about the wedding, but the fact that you've had hard dates for months and suddenly now you're told no. A workplace needs to respect workers as well, and since they don't it shouldn't be a long-term job for you either. I'd do what works for you now, and find something new after the wedding.

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  • NotThatFreakinMary
    VIP November 2016
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    I wouldn't step down. I would try and take a couple days off. Or FH may just have to do cake tasting by himself. He's a big boy and I'm sure he can handle it

    Can the dress shop send your dress to you to be fitted where you live?

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