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Shayla
Just Said Yes February 2020

Seriously i need help...bm monster.

Shayla, on November 1, 2019 at 8:05 PM Posted in Planning 0 19
Okay...so let me lay the ground work for everyone. I asked my brother’s long time gf to be a BM in my wedding in Feb 2020, she said yes. Granted we aren’t that close and I saw this as an opportunity to get to know her better since my brother is thinking about marrying her. When the bachelorette trip planning came up 7 months ago I asked everyone in the party what they thought about doing a short 4 day cruise and gave them the price. Everyone, including her, agreed it was a great idea, right time of year and a good price. I go ahead and pay for the cruise then everyone can pay my back. 2 weeks go by and she tells me all the sudden she can’t go because of “money”. Okay I get that, even though it put me in a spot to try and find someone to replace her. The more I thought about it, the worst I felt because I felt like I was leaving her out and she seemed so excited to go. I started looking for a second cheaper room so she could go and another cousin of mine, yes they wouldn’t be in the same room as us but at least she would be on the boat and would only be in the room to sleep. Since she has money troubles, I asked my brother if he would mind helping her out so she could go. Needless to say his answer was not pleasant said that it was my responsibility to pay for everyone to go since it was my idea... so I let it go. Never told her about the cheaper room or anything because I didn’t have a real solution for her. Today she sends me this long text about how dare I text my brother, that he’s too busy for me and if I want to talk to her then I need to text her and not be so childish. Quite frankly this does not sit well with me since I was trying to be nice and find a way for her to go. I want to kick her out of the bridal but my mom says it’s rude and I can’t do it. Also, to this day she has not once asked what she could do to help with the wedding or actually anything about the wedding except that she got her dress -_- and if that wasn’t bad enough pretended like I didn’t even exist at another wedding just 2 weeks ago for a cousin of mine. So I guess my question is, can I kick her out and if so, how do I do it nicely because the conversation I want to have with her is less than pleasant.

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Latest activity by Katie, on November 2, 2019 at 8:05 PM
  • Jennifer
    Super March 2020
    Jennifer ·
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    I think you'll need to have a blunt conversation. Explain your situation and how willing you were to help her. This is supposed to be the most important time of your life and you don't need drama. I personally wouldn't put up with it.
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  • LB
    Champion November 2016
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    Eh I'm with BM. You shouldn't have gone behind her back to your brother. It's also not her job to help you with planning anything with the wedding. That's your and your SOs job. She got the dress, shes set.
    If you kick her out you should 100% reimburse her for the dress and expect that relationship (and probably the one you have with your brother) to be irrevocably ruined.
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  • Sarah
    Master September 2019
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    There’s no nice way to do this and honestly if you do, expect it to have long term consequences not only in your relationship with her but with your brother as well. She was right- you shouldn’t have gone to him about it. Not everyone can make it when you plan a destination bachelorette party. That’s just par for the course.
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  • M
    Devoted September 2019
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    I wouldn't kick her out, but maybe have coffee with her and explain your intentions for texting your brother and apologize that it upset her. I'd try and focus on building up the relationship and hopefully chatting about the wedding will come naturally. Also, as PP said, she really isn't obligated to help with the wedding planning, and I imagine it's probably awkward for her to try and help if she doesn't know you very well.

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  • A
    Super February 2020
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    I don't understand why she's getting incredibly defensive for saying you shouldn't have gone to your brother/her bf when you were trying to help. I think you should have a chat with her and be transparent. This is your wedding and you are trying to include her because she may be a part of the family in the future.

    Sounds like she is frustrated about something going on in her life and is blowing up at you. Also, if she can't pay for the cruise I don't think you should pay for her (unless you really wanted to extend an olive branch), but instead find someone else who can take her spot. But, I wouldn't kick her out of the party if your brother is intending on marrying her because she will be joining the family and will remember you not including her for the rest of her life.

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  • Stefanie
    Devoted December 2019
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    There’s no easy way to have a conversation like that but I would try to talk to her first since taking her out will probably make a bad relationship between you two. At the end of the day your brother might marry her so you have to think about all the things you could do and the consequences. Honestly I wouldn’t pay for her
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  • Stefanie
    Devoted December 2019
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    And honestly I wouldn’t feel offended at all for what you did but it seems not everyone thinks like that, maybe if you talk you can see things from her perspective and she can see them from yours
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  • M
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    - This is why I usually advise against asking people to be in your wedding party in hopes of getting closer. It really should just be your already-closest friends. Weddings can be stressful, and not just for the bride/groom, so having a solid foundation with your bridesmaids is super key.

    - A cruise, as a multi-person event, is a nightmare to organize. You typically need to be 100% sure of your head count way ahead of time, so people need to know immediately if they have the time and funds, and it's often difficult to get out of. Additionally, cruises don't allow for people to leave early or join halfway through, which is usually a solution for people who can't afford a whole trip/have schedule restrictions. I think you probably should have anticipated at least one or two issues with a four-day bachelorette party on a boat.

    - Bridesmaids aren't obligated to help or to offer up their assistance with wedding planning. Movies/TV shows have made us believe that is not the case, but its on the couple getting married to plan their wedding (or whomever they hire, of course).

    - You shouldn't have texted your brother about someone else's finances. I get that they're in a serious relationship, even likely to get engaged soon, but that was uncalled for/a bit of an invasion of her privacy.

    - Her saying your text to your brother was "childish" is a strange comment, but I understand being non-too-happy about it.

    - Kicking her out is an option, but you should definitely weigh the consequences of the ripple effect here. This seems like a minor thing at best--I've definitely heard some horror stories about people who absolutely deserved to be kicked out and cut off by the couple--but she's pretty intwined in your family and I'd really take that into consideration.

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  • Jeanie
    Super February 2020
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    You shouldn’t have talked to your brother when she backed out. I get why you did, but it’s not his place to get involved. Also, if she backed out of the cruise before it was booked, no harm no foul. This happens. People agree to stuff all the time with the excitement of going places, and then have to back out after they put some real thought into it. Just get a room that will hold three girls and the odd person out situation is solved. Also, as a bridesmaid she’s not required to help with anything. All she has to do is show up with a dress on your wedding day. I think you need to work on your relationship with her aside from your wedding. If that’s all you talk to her about, she may feel like you don’t actually want her there and would explain her avoiding you. If your brother does marry her, she’s going to be family. I suggest you set your pride aside and find some way to connect with her.
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  • Chrisheena
    Devoted November 2019
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    Look regardless of what, IT'S YOUR DAY DO WHAT YOU WANT!!!! Listen, if you dont want her to be in your bridal party you shouldn't have to settle for anything tht you dont want to. Gradually the relationship might work it self out in the future maybe over holiday dinner idk. But life is short and it shouldn't be wasted on non sense energy. Your worth more. I fired my MOH which is the mother of my brothers children. I held her close to my heart like a real sister. She basically didn't care. And guess what I didn't neither. I feel at ease and ready to move on. It hurts but o well. It's your day my lovely enjoy every moment. You cant get along with everyone. And you dam sure can't please people. Good luck suga!!
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  • Shayla
    Just Said Yes February 2020
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    Thank you everyone for the comments! Smiley smile I guess the part of the whole situation I’m most upset about is not her backing out of a trip she already said she could afford, it was that she told me that I can’t talk to my own brother because he doesn’t have time for me... I’m sorry, but he’s MY brother and I don’t feel like she has any right telling me who I can and can’t speak to in my own family. I just find it very disrespectful and to me I feel like she’s acting like I’m some sort of random girl trying to move in on her man by saying that I’m not allowed to talk to him and I need to talk to her only.
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  • Letecia
    Just Said Yes April 2021
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    Hello,
    I do not feel that you should be obligated to pay for anyone's trip. It is up to your guest to pay for their own trip until you volunteered to pay traveling costs. As
    brides-to-be, we must be mindful that not everyone will be able to travel or pay for expensive Group trips. There are many families living paycheck to paycheck. Don't take it personal if guests are not able to go one group trip. Enjoy and make the most beautiful memories with those families and friends who are able to share your happiness!

    Tecia
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  • Jennifer
    Super March 2020
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    I saw that statement. That is wrong and I feel like your brother and her have something strange going on. After a long relationship why aren't they discussing each others finances?! Especially if you live together that just comes with a territory. I don't agree with them talking about each others pocket books with outside parties, but I feel that this is much different. Asking for his financial help because she said she didn't have the money is much different than you calling to ask why she is broke. Also, he is your brother, that statement was uncalled for. Who is she to tell you that he doesn't have time for you? I don't like drama in my life and I sure as heck don't agree with people bringing their drama to me. Some of the best decisions I've ever made were to cut people out that caused unnecessary drama. I understand that she may be family one day, but you also need to set your own boundaries. Telling you that your brother doesn't have time for you is a boundary that should never be crossed.
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  • K
    Dedicated November 2020
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    First off i am so sorry you had to go thought that and second it is actually not your place to even book anything that goes to your maid of honor she books that at less that's what mine is doing now im not going to a cruise all she did was asked what i wanted to do i told her i wanted to go to Colorado since I've never been i told her i don't wanna go if its cost everyone to much money she said don't worry about that she took care of it all. Now for your brother he is wrong all girls should gove to pay there way for the trip the bride don't do that so sham on him just enjoy yourself and don't let family or anyone upset you
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  • Kari
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    I would sit her down and have a conversation with her where you tell her pretty much everything you wrote down. You don't know her well but you know she's important to your brother so you asked her to be a bridesmaid because you wanted to get to know her better. That you wanted to do something fun that everyone could participate in and that's why you asked everyone what they thought of the cruise before booking it, because you didn't want to do anything that would put anyone out money wise. That you really want her to be included but cannot afford to pay for her spot, so you were looking into less expensive rooms so she could still be there but it wouldn't be as difficult for her to swing financially. That you reached out to your brother because you thought he might want to chip in so you could participate, and that you didn't realize asking him would upset her... and on and on. You can say that you expected all the bridesmaids to contribute in these different ways (like helping out with parts of the wedding), but perhaps you didn't really explain that to her in the beginning when you asked her, and you probably should have. If you take ownership for your own actions (whatever they may be) and suggest that her inclusion was with the best of intentions, she should be receptive. If she and your brother are likely to be married in the future you are probably going to have to have her in your life for a long time, so it makes sense to try to smooth things over rather than just kick her out of the wedding.

    If she doesn't respond well to that and the drama continues, then I think its totally fine to tell her she doesn't need to participate in your wedding party. You don't need drama like that. I do think this is a situation that could be rectified though, assuming you are both coming from a good place and reasonable people.

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  • Nichole
    Beginner November 2019
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    If she cant pay for the cruise, find someone to replace her and let them pay money to you. That's just one event she will miss. But I agree with other ladies, you shouldn't have went to your brother about that. She knew about cruise and price, so find someone else. No free trips
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  • Vicky
    VIP January 2020
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    Take your wedding out of it and respond how you would if there were an issue with your brother's GF. I'd suggest sitting down with her and clearing the air. You shouldn't have gone to her bf behind her back, and it sounds like whatever she said to you was a response - seeming over-response - to that. She shouldn't have told you that your brother doesn't have time to talk to you and that you need to go through her to speak to him. Have a calm conversation wherein you apologize for your part in the dust up, and be prepared to forgive, or at least set aside. But leave her participation in your wedding out of it, unless you're looking for a way to blow up your relationship with her and your brother for good.

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    I would have a conversation face to face and clear the air. I feel a cruise is a big ask for anyone when they are already spending money on a dress, shoes, taking time off from work, shower gifts, etc. She may have assumed you were paying. Or maybe she does want to spend he money that way. Either way, have a talk about it. Play nice-she might be your sin someday.

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  • Katie
    Dedicated August 2021
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    It's your wedding, you are putting in all the money, time and work for your one special day. If you don't wish to have someone be a bridesmaids anymore it's your wedding you can replace them if you want. Id tell her face to face that you were trying to help her out by talking to your brother about helping her out with the expenses for the cruise and that you are now starting to realize that she isn't going to be a good fit as a bridesmaid because of all the expenses that come with being a bridesmaids.
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