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Laura
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Posts regarding elopement with a wedding to follow...

Laura, on September 23, 2019 at 7:45 PM Posted in Etiquette and Advice 0 23

I am always surprised to see how often 'it is your day' is invoked by all of us on the boards. Still, there is one example when this seems to clearly not be the couple's day. And that is when it comes to an elopement and a follow up wedding ceremony - complete with vows. I'll be honest. I was reading posts about this and was deeply troubled by what I read...

I think it needs to be said that legal paperwork and religious/romantic ceremonies are not the same thing. And even a minister and priest will tell you this. That is why they want you to be married in or by the church. If they were the same the church wouldn't be bothered by it. For example, notice that no one minds when a minister or priest (or other) says that even though a couple is married under the law, that they aren't under God - and then they have the religious ceremony to correct this (although having already signed the certificate). Or that a couple married under God still needs the legal paperwork and goes to the courthouse.

And more importantly no one refers to it as fraud when the couple seeks out whichever part they missed and no one claims that a priest is committing fraud for marrying a couple who was already married outside the church (and signed and filed paperwork). But, if the couple asks that this be done then everyone trashes them and calls them frauds. That makes no sense. Can couples do the legal and religious/romantic parts all at once? Sure. But, they can also do it in parts.

I've never understood others right to be pissed about something that was really not theirs to be pissed about. Getting married is about the individuals, so get married in the way that suits you, in whatever way suits you - but don't judge others. And if a person wants one family romantic ceremony and one that is just the two of them - they should go for it. If they want the courthouse and a beautiful church wedding they should do that. If they want two romantic weddings (private and public) there is no rational reason to tell them they can't have that.

Weddings celebrate the couple, and if others can't celebrate the couple unless they do it your way or call it what you want them to ... well, I guess you really weren't there to celebrate the couple. If it's a wedding to you because there are vows being said and the important people are there, that's enough justification to call it a wedding. And lastly, only marriage is recognized by law; a wedding can be anything you want it to be. Handfasting, religious, pagan, nonreligious, or paragliding, bungee jumping, and cliff side are all weddings. There is one marriage but there can be any number of weddings (and they do not have to be called a vow renewal). This is because whomever is having the wedding gets to call it whatever they want.

Personally, I trust people to know what's best for them. I have no problem with hidden ceremonies either. For some people, it's just what felt right for them (celebrities often do them). It's not an attempt to lie to everyone or even deceive. And it's not starting marriage off with lies. It's starting it with boundaries that a couple has agreed to regarding their privacy and should be honored by guests.

To be clear all these rules are made up by someone, sometime long ago. No one is forced to adhere to those rules, though others might not like it if they do. However, someone not liking your idea isn't necessarily a reason not to do it. Each bride and groom has their own story and it should be written by them on their terms only.

I support anyone who wants a secret wedding, an elopement with a wedding too, or any combination. The world needs more love and weddings are a wonderful way to keep spreading that happiness around.

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Latest activity by Andrea, on September 25, 2019 at 10:56 PM
  • Formerbride
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    Formerbride ·
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    You're right, everyone should do whatever they want. It's their lives, not ours. However, this is a public forum where people can express their feelings about an issue that is presented to them. I agree the world does need more love. Thanks for posting your support to all!
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  • Andrea
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    I don’t know what church you go to where the pastor is bothered by the wedding not being in or bear the church.
    We are getting married by our pastor at the same site as our reception. The “church” is not upset at us. Maybe do some research on religion before you go off on a rant. That is not how Christianity works. Please don’t put the idea in people’s heads that God doesn’t recognize their marriage unless it takes place in a church because that is absolutely untrue.
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  • Laura
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    Actually, it is how Catholicism works and the Catholic faith is indeed one of the Christian faiths. Smiley heart My first marriage we 'had to' be married in the Church and the priest refused any other venue. Perhaps that church was more rural or the Father more strict - either way it is reality for some. I actually have studied religion and ethics. I could have mentioned many others, as I did in my closing.

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  • Andrea
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    Catholic weddings are extremely different than the majority of Christian weddings, I should have choose a different word than “Christian” but common, Catholicism you know it is much much more strict than any other Christian denomination. And you didn’t mention any of denominations of Christianity in your “closing” (didn’t realize you were writing a formal paper here) you said bungee jumping. Pretty sure that’s not a religion.
    Also a “pastor” by definition wouldn’t be a catholic priest so obviously I wasn’t talking about Catholicism. Just didn’t think you should make extremely broad generalizations about rules in the church.
    I’m happy for people to marry whomever they choose however and wherever they choose. That should be the point.
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  • Laura
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    I actually do write papers for a profession. "Handfasting, religious, pagan, nonreligious, or paragliding, bungee jumping, and cliff side are all weddings."

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  • Laura
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    I'll only say all the posts I read were incredibly harsh. There's no reason for that. People love and celebrate that love in a lot of ways. I wondered about opening Pandora's Box by posting this, but I felt like there were people on here who weren't really supported and that bummed me out. I also know a person who hid their elopement and I hate to think of people judging my friend in the ways that were described. I mean no offense to those who have weddings by the book. But to tell people they have to call it a vow renewal, that it's not a wedding, etc. just seemed really unkind at what should have been a very happy time for them. I hope they see this post and know that not everyone holds those views...

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  • Emily
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    I think OP is meaning to comment on the amount of criticism that those whole have a civil ceremony first and then later complete a symbolic/religious/etc ceremony later receive. Many people deem these second events to not be the “real” wedding and therefore have harsh comments when people would like to treat these events will the grandeur of having only one event. The comments regarding religion are just meant to be anecdotal.

    I agree that the symbolism of making a lifelong commitment to each other is very important (whether that is ordained by a religious figure or celebrated on an adventure) and whatever we each need to do to mark the occasion is valid.
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  • Andrea
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    I’m not arguing with you on any of that. People should be free to get married however they want. I made one comment about religion because what you said was untrue. That’s it.

    Please don’t make it sound like I’m against how people want to get married 🙄🙄 you clearly didn’t read what I said.
    You also didn’t “open Pandora’s box” no one is up in arms over your post, it’s not controversial. You’re really just talking at me and not reading or comprehending what I’m saying.
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  • A
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    I’ve literally never seen a single person bashing elopements or those that want to have a celebration after eloping, it’s only ever become controversial when they plan to keep their marriage a secret from friends and family because many people perceive that as deceitful. If you legally married regardless of the route, you’re married, regardless if you truly “believe” that or not. It also rubs people the wrong way when someone says “my real wedding” when referring to a ceremony afterwards because any legal ceremony is the “real wedding” and many people who opted to go to the courthouse and people who fought for centuries for the right to simply go to the courthouse may feel like the they are being invalidated. Even If you have a civil ceremony then want it to be recognized by the church you have to go through the convalidation process, not another wedding, because once you’re legally married you can’t get married again without getting divorced first.
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  • Ebony
    Just Said Yes August 2020
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    Yea sooo umm hey n stuff..been engaged for about 8 months. Uummm just jumped on this wedding wire thing looking for advice and stories..but I think I'll pass. I wish all u ladies the best. Take it easy
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  • Jess
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    You guys need to think about how you’re talking to one another. you’re grown ass women, learn how to talk to one another respectfully. someone saw this convo and literally decided not to use the app which is so ridiculous and shameful honestly. you should be supporting one another.


    i see both sides of this, i grew up in a conservative christian church and went there for the majority of my life and the view on marriage was very different than what we’ll be implementing in our lives. everyone has their own opinion, we should all be able to share it respectfully.
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  • Vicky
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    What she said was not untrue. It reflected a specific tradition, of which you were apparently unaware. You were actually the one who made untrue claims.

    It seems to me that you're the one not reading or comprehending what Laura's saying.

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  • Laura
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    Yes, I am speaking about elopements with a "real" wedding after it.

    I agree that many people fought for the right to marry at courthouses or beyond. Judaism (reformed) allows same sex weddings to be performed. And I'm so glad they can!!

    I think comments about "this" being my real wedding are trying to show that one had a different significance. It seems the elopement are usually for the couple and the wedding that followed mattered because of others. For example, my friend who went to court and still had her "real wedding" considered them differently because get kids were at one and not the other. I know another that said in her heart she wouldn't be married unless her grandmother were there. Both thought that their family should see everything groom the perfect dress and vows to a reception.

    I just think being harsh about this is unkind. Odds are if someone is going through the trouble of having the big shebang, they have strong reasons for doing so. Smiley smile
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  • Laura
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    Yes those are the weddings that I was talking about... and thank you!
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  • Andrea
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    Yes I’m sure that’s exactly what happened. She read one comment and decided to to be on the app 🙄 ok
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  • Andrea
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    I’m aware of Catholicism thank you. If you read what she wrote, it’s rather confusing. I’m not trying to argue worth anyone here. Especially not about religion. I have said multiple times I have no problems with how people want to get married. There is not a single comment I have made that does not support a “to each her own” mindset
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  • Andrea
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    I have never been harsh about how people decide to get married!! Geez! Please read what I actually said. 🤦🏼‍♀️ I really do enjoy this app but now maybe that other girl was right because this post is exhausting and frustrating
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  • MrsV1027
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    All of this! I remember seeing so many responses and posts saying that you cannot and better not call a ceremony that happens after the legal marriage a wedding. We eloped 2/16/18 for insurance reasons to save us thousands in dental bills. We wanted a wedding ceremony with our friends and family that we had already been planning so we went through with both not even thinking that people out there thought we were horrible and wrong for doing so. MIL even was excited about the whole thing because where she was born and raised it was just how things are. You legally marry with the state and then have the big ceremony later on. All of our family and friends were excited about our ceremony and everyone called it our wedding. We celebrate both because why not? Life should be one big celebration anyways. My son named the Feb elopement our "Marriagetimesday" and Oct or Wedding. Everything about our wedding ceremony was just like any other wedding except the vows were changed to reflect that we were already married and the papers were already signed.

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  • MrsV1027
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    I personally know couples who have dealt with issues of weddings and their christian churches. Some churches are more strict than others so don't be so quick to think that all christian churches are like yours. Just like you judged the OP...

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  • Andrea
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    You said “religions” not “weddings”
    I really think the point of what you were saying and the point of what i were saying were completely missed and now it’s just drama.
    I’m sorry for my part in the misunderstanding and now I would really like to take part in honestly any other post, so I’m going to excuse myself from commenting on this thread. Good luck in your future wedding and marriage 💗
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