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Mrs. Spring
Master April 2021

Over it! Am i being selfish?!

Mrs. Spring, on January 24, 2021 at 7:32 AM Posted in Wedding Ceremony 0 24
It was originally my dream to get married in the mountains on National Park land. The federal learership just signed an executive order where masks are required on all National Park land outside!!!! I had already completed a permit application but thank goodness I held off on paying the $300 fee. I'm now giving up on the mountain dream and opting for a city/downtown elopement. There is no way I would want to exchange vows and spend hundreds or even thousands on wedding pictures where my groom and I are in masks in all/most of them. My mom tells me I'm overreacting and that we all should have to wear a mask at all times when we are outside.


1. How are we hurting others without a mask if we are outside and we look to our left and right, back and front, and there's not a person in sight?!
2. Do all of you wear masks when you're outdoors and no one is arounc?
3. Do you plan on wearing a mask during your OUTDOOR wedding?


4. Am I selfish for thinking this way?
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Latest activity by Vicky, on February 18, 2021 at 11:00 PM
  • Carolyn
    Savvy October 2021
    Carolyn ·
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    Yes if a mask is required I will be wearing one and generally wear one even if they are not. Even if no one is near you one moment, it doesn’t mean no one will ever pass you by in a public space. However I do completely hear you on spending so much money and it not being worth it. We are in a pandemic, so safety for all is top priority. This is why I postponed the first time, might postpone again, or change the plan to something else entirely (very small). Best of luck to you in these tough times ❤️
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  • Lisa
    Rockstar July 2022
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    I don't think you're being selfish in not wanting masks at your wedding - I didn't want masks at my wedding (though I am supportive of wearing masks during the pandemic), so we postponed. You deserve to have the wedding you've dreamed of! But unfortunately, this is the decision so many people have been struggling with over the past year: Postpone? Continue as planned with the restrictions (masks, social distancing, etc)? Modify the plan (new location, etc)? There is no wrong answer, only you and your fiance can decide what's best for you. If your dream is to get married in the mountains, are you able to find a new location in the mountains that isn't on National Park land? There are lots of beautiful places outside National Parks that have gorgeous scenery for a wedding! Otherwise, you could postpone until the masks aren't a requirement anymore?

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  • Katie
    VIP August 2020
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    Hi Mrs. Spring! Although I am an avid mask wearer and believe in the power of masks during this time, with an elopement where it is just you, your groom and the officiant with no one else around, I totally get you!! If the officiant wants to wear a mask, I don’t mind that at all. But the wedding industry has been struggling and if there are a few brides who want to creatively move forward, such as yourselves who have cancelled the big reception and opted for an elopement outdoors, I feel you. Your wedding sounds like the safest route anyone can take. Please let this couple exchange vows on a mountain for 15 minutes without a mask 🌺🌸

    Is there a deadline when the restriction will lift?
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  • Gabby
    Devoted October 2021
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    Are there no other beautiful outdoor places to elope that aren't federal land?
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  • T
    Super April 2021
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    Yeah I think this is silly (the EO, not you). I won't be wearing a mask at my wedding and would have postponed if it came to that. Masks are required in the church where we are getting married, but not for bridal party, and not for anyone at the reception because it's outside.


    I don't wear masks outside, at all. Very few Covid cases are transmitted outdoors and if you're somewhere like a *National Park*, where you're far away from everyone, that's rather excessive to me. I don't blame you for not wanting to deal with that.
    I second Gabby's suggestion, and find a non-federal park or space to have your event.
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    Super December 2020
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    We had an all outdoor wedding, we wore masks except when eating and when we took some pictures (we made sure to be 6ft apart from another person not part of our household before we took off our mask).
    I think that if you’re outdoors with just your household and no one else around (as in your parents if they don’t live with you are more than 6ft away) then masks aren’t really needed.
    But unfortunately rules are rules, and knowing how busy some national parks are, it’s pretty easy to actually be close to others.
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  • T
    Just Said Yes January 2021
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    1. It's not about hurting others, it's about obeying the LAW. If you are the last person on earth you should still do the speed limit.


    2. Always wear a mask even if no one is looking.
    3. Refer to #2.
    4. Not selfish just inhumane.
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  • Kimberly
    Super March 2021
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    That is so weird that they are requiring masks outdoors with social distancing. That makes no sense. You are not being selfish for not wanting to wear a masks for your elopement outdoors.
    Can the officiant and photographer wear masks while you and FH do not? Have them handy of course in case others come near you guys but I’d think if people saw a wedding happening they’d keep their distance.
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  • M
    VIP January 2019
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    It's not relevant whether you are "selfish for thinking this way." I think everyone understands that wearing a mask on one's wedding day is not idea. But is is important to make sure you comply with the rules that affect where and when you plan to get married.

    The content of the EO seems to allow for leeway for the individual park managers to make their own decisions, based on their judgment of park conditions. Before giving up, I would reach out directly to the park you want to visit to ask how they are handling this new EO and if your circumstances are allowed.

    Some national parks have gotten so crowded during the pandemic that even though they are outside, there are still issues affecting employee safety (including staffing shortages leading to waste and sewage piling up). But I bet some of the less popular parks, or less popular areas within parks, don't have such stringent rules.

    And the bottom line is that these new rules are LONG overdue. The lack of national rules being put in place last year means we are all still in the depths of the pandemic now. And human nature being what it is, the rules need to be strict in order to get any semblance of compliance.

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  • Mrs. Spring
    Master April 2021
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    Thanks. Im not postponing again.
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  • Mrs. Spring
    Master April 2021
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    Other places are a lot more expensive. They charge double even tripple the price just for a 15 mins exchanging vows. Thanks for your contribution to the post.
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  • Mrs. Spring
    Master April 2021
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    Nope no deadline. I threw in the towel.
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  • Mrs. Spring
    Master April 2021
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    Yes there are others but I dont want to pay $700 to $1500 to use their private land for 10 mins. National park was only $300 for two hours.
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  • Mrs. Spring
    Master April 2021
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    It's so frustrating! If not wearing a mask outside is dangerous to a person who is outside half a mile away from me, then it should be dangerous as well if I'm in my apartment unmasked and the tenants nextdoor to me in their apartment are unmasked. 😤
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  • Mrs. Spring
    Master April 2021
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    Hi anais, Okay thanks for your input.
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    Master April 2021
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    Hi The,
    Okay lets agree to disagree on this one.
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  • Mrs. Spring
    Master April 2021
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    No ma'am. Everyone on federal government owned land must wear a mask. Sooo looks like I will no longer be getting married there.
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  • Mrs. Spring
    Master April 2021
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    Hi Maggie, I genuinely believe if im outside in open land and the nearest person us half a mile away and we're both unmasked then its no more dangerous than being unmasked in my apartment while my nextdoor neighbor is unmasked in theirs.


    I guess I'm just silly. Thanks for your input.
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  • Connie
    Dedicated December 2021
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    Hi there!

    I am so sorry your super reasonable elopement has turned into this mess! I definitely wear my mask at all times when out in public, but never outdoors unless I am close to other people. Just out of curiosity, what kind of enforcement will there be for this new mandate? Like is there gonna be a park ranger monitoring your wedding at all times, or are they going to search through your photos afterwards to make sure everyone had on masks, or...? Is the penalty a fee or will they throw you in federal prison??? I am not encouraging anyone to go against executive orders, but I don't understand how they reasonably expect to enforce this fully without hiring tons of new employees for "mask enforcement duty."

    On a more productive note, are there any Air BnBs or VRBOs near that national park with incredible views of the national park or the mountains? Especially since y'all are just doing an elopement and not a big party, I don't think any rental place would take issue with that. And hopefully that will help you stick to your budget and not have to worry about masking up.

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  • M
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    Sure. But have you checked with the park(s) in question to find out what is and isn't allowed? The EO you reference is written to leave room for some leeway. I wouldn't despair yet.

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