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Just Said Yes September 2021

Livid over this std

Samantha, on August 24, 2020 at 4:12 PM Posted in Etiquette and Advice 0 15
My brother's fiancé sent me a save the date addressed to the future mr. And Mrs. his first and last name. My brother knows I'm keeping my last name. He has talked to me about it, encouraged my decision, and even noticed/commented on the carefully crafted return address labels I sent (pre covid wedding date/invite) with both of our first and last names. So I honestly think she did this on purpose and I'm livid. This isn't my mom's friend making an assumption when buying us a gift with his name (which was sweet and sits on his desk now), this is someone who knew and still put the wrong name.


(Background: I'm currently not speaking to either of them because of hurtful things they have each said to me/my family about the importance of their wedding compared to mine. The weddings are close together. Working on forgiving, so I don't want to go more into it)

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Latest activity by Shirley, on August 25, 2020 at 4:09 PM
  • Sexypoodle
    Master October 2021
    Sexypoodle ·
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    Sorry you’re so upset about that. But I say.... toss the envelope in the trash and keep moving. 🤷🏽‍♀️ I realize that there’s tension which is making you view the envelope situation so seriously. But definitely don’t allow that to ruin your day or make you reach the point of being livid.
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  • Kari
    Master May 2020
    Kari ·
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    I kept my first and last name but don't take offense to being Mrs. His Last Name. Technically you are going to be Mrs. His First Name His Last Name and he is going to be Mr. Your First Name Your Last Name. It would be more incorrect (and more offensive) if they combined Your First Name with His Last Name because that person doesn't exist.

    I've had friends address gifts and invites "His First Name and My First Name My Last Name" or throw my last name with his first name or any combination thereof. I think the fact that they are addressing you as a unit is actually a sign of respect (albeit a traditional one centered around gender social norms, which you may not personally be a fan of or support).

    If these are STDs for your brother and his fiancee, she probably just wants everything to be formal and uniform and is using the same salutation and addressing for all guests. It's not likely personal at all.

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  • Hanna
    VIP June 2019
    Hanna ·
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    Are you sure it was on purpose? I kept my last name and I get things addressed to me with my husband's last name all the time by accident (from both family members and friends). It might have been an accident

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  • J
    Master October 2022
    Jana ·
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    It's entirely possible that she wants to be formal and consistent with titles. Not everyone keeps their maiden name. I don't think it was intentional. Talk to your brother if it bothers you but not worth ending a relationship over.
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  • Molly
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    Molly ·
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    I think what annoys me about your situation is it was addressed "the future Mr. And Mrs. his first and last name." I have read a lot about how to address invites and STD and NOWHERE have I seen that has you put future Mr. and Mrs. on an invite. It's also a bit tackless to not double-check if you are keeping your name or not.

    If she wants things to be formal she should address the envelope Mr. His first and last name and Ms. Your first and last name. That is proper etiquette. What would she do if you weren't engaged? If she has friends that are just dating did she just put future Mr. and Mrs. His Last name? No, she probably didn't. I would sit down and have a conversation with your parents and brother and explain why this hurt you.

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  • H
    Devoted August 2023
    Hhh ·
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    As a fellow bride you know how much of a pain names and addresses can be. It’s quite possible that she addressed it that way trying to be nice and appreciate your pending marriage, and your brother did the obligatory skim of the list and didn’t even notice. My FH only realized his BIL name was misspelled on like our 5th run through! Not to mention, who hasn’t had cards/invites from friends with errors before?
    You can take this as a slight and continue assuming the worst of them, or cut them some slack, given that planning a wedding is hard enough right now, and be the adult.
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  • J
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    Judith ·
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    "Technically you are going to be Mrs. His First Name His Last Name and he is going to be Mr. Your First Name Your Last Name. " This is not correct, or true. He will be your husband, you will be his wife. But if you do not change to the Mrs. His Name at time of marriage, it will never be correct to call you that. And never correct for him to be Mr. Your name. Always wrong. ********** I agree that likely this was not intended to be vicious or mean, however, just matter of not knowing what to do.
    It gripes me that more than half the places I have checked, including some writers of articles on WW, the knot, Peggy Post, and others, tell you that if you don't know, use the default Mr and Mrs Hisname, " it really does not matter." Which means fiancé or someone helping her may likely be getting bad advice when they have tried to find out. Any real etiquette book or article will tell you it is matter of courtesy, and that you should check with the people involved directly ( not mothers and friends) as the correct form of address is the title and name the person prefers to use. After all, the name on your guest list is the one you will use for STD, the list you give anyone for a shower or bachelorette, and their invitations. For your invitation, and your escort cards, place cards, seating charts, and 1 or 2 Thank you notes. Repeating such an error 7-8 times would be offensive, so every effort should be made to find out correct titles and addresses. I think the OP should write a very civil not or email to the fiance now, asking that until OP marriage, and after, their correct titles and names are__________, and write the names and addresses as you would like people to them for you and your FI. Be nice, a "heads up so you can correct your master guest list."
    As for the people who use, to the FUTURE Mrs. someone , it is meant to be cute. But like any slang or nonsense, it is fine for kidding in person, but in writing on things seen by others it is not cute, it often is irritating. Or feels insulting when as here, that person will never be Mrs. anyone. Simply wrong. When the person doing it irritates you to begin with, it is harder to be polite in return, but necessary. Unless you yourself have never made a mistake.
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  • VIP August 2020
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    I would be furious if my brother's (hypothetical) fiancé did this to me! I try to assume that people mean well, but considering your footnote, it's hard to imagine that she was trying to be cute and this is not something that could've happened accidentally. There are a lot of ways to set up guest list spreadsheets and I can see how Mr. and Mrs. HisLastName could happen, but there is no additional column that makes it possible to accidentally include "the future" before names Also, the people who try to do cute (informal) things with the way they address envelopes are typically not the same (formal, old fashioned) people who pretend the woman doesn't have her own name.

    I would fill out the RSVP card with my full name (possibly in all caps and/or sharpie to make it extra clear why I filled it out that way, but being that unsubtle likely wouldn't help with improving your relationship).

    I don't really know what you're looking for. I hope I didn't make it worse, but I'm sorry if I did.

    Good luck with your forgiveness.

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  • Kimberly
    Super March 2021
    Kimberly ·
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    I think you are blowing this way out of proportion. It really seems more likely she was trying to be inclusive of your upcoming marriage. I understand you and your brother have discussed the fact that you aren’t changing your name but unless she was a part of those discussions I doubt he talked to her about it and like PP said he didn’t think about it when he glanced over the list.
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  • Katie
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    Katie ·
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    I highly doubt this was intentionally done to be malicious. I’m really surprised by others reactions, in my opinion you’re really overreacting.
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  • Natalie
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    I think this is a really petty reason to be so upset. Your brother likely never mentioned the information to your FSIL, and she was intending to be cute about the fact that you will both be getting married. When addressing dozens and dozens of addresses, mistakes happen! Kindly let her know how you would prefer to be addressed in the future.
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  • Laquita
    Expert July 2021
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    I think you're allowing your current tension with your brother to cloud your logical judgment. While it is frustrating when you feel like you're not being listened to despite explaining your preferences, I don't think this is one of those times. It is entirely possible your FSIL just wanted to be cute & acknowledge your upcoming marriage, it's also possible no one wanted to write both of your names on that envelope & opted to address you both as one. This feels like you're blowing a minor issue up due to you not getting along with your brother, who probably never fully discussed this with his own FS or, as someone else said could have just glossed over the list & never fully paid attention to how anyone was addressed. There are so many things you can do with your time & energy, I don't think this is one of those things that deserve too much attention.

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  • Kari
    Master May 2020
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    Chill out.

    Technically Calvin Harris is Adam Richard Wiles and Queen Bey is Beyoncé Giselle Knowles-Carter. Millions of people in the world have nicknames, colloquial names, etc. Me being Mrs. My Husband's First and Last Name and doesn't mean I'm not also My First Name Last Name, nor is the reverse true.

    If the OP is livid about how the STDs were addressed but also doesn't declare herself on speaking terms with the offending relatives, well then clearly there are some major dynamics at play. I say just decline and don't go if these people offend you that much. If you aren't going to give someone the time of day to actually speak with them, I don't think it's worth concerning yourself with how they address a letter to you.

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  • Mrs. Spring
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    I recommend you just laugh it off because either 1. She made a silly mistake or 2. She was really going out of her way to try to get under your skin. Number 2 is funny and unfortunate because it shows she must not be happy wirh herself if she has to do such a thing.
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  • Shirley
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    I would let this go. Even if you don't take his last name, I agree with PP that Mr. And Mrs. Fitzwilliam Darcy is appropriate for letter envelopes, instead of Mr. Fitzwilliam Darcy and Mrs. Jane Bennett. Who knows why she addressed it that way? Maybe she was just cranking them out using the traditional formula. Don't let her live rent-free in your head. Let this go
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