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Trinity
Beginner May 2020

Kids or No Kids?

Trinity, on June 26, 2019 at 3:47 PM

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Hello Everyone! We're getting married in Tulum, Mexico in May, 2020 and instead of a reception after the ceremony, we're going to charter a yacht and only invite our immediate families and best friends on the charter with us. My two sisters and my fiance's older sister all have kids under 5 years...

Hello Everyone!

We're getting married in Tulum, Mexico in May, 2020 and instead of a reception after the ceremony, we're going to charter a yacht and only invite our immediate families and best friends on the charter with us. My two sisters and my fiance's older sister all have kids under 5 years old, as well as our best friends who have a toddler and a newborn. I mentioned to my fiance that it made me anxious to think of toddlers on a yacht, and joked that nothing will kill a celebratory vibe more than a kid falling off the boat and drowning.

Furthermore, my fiance will be graduating medical school earlier that month and 90% off the friends we're inviting on the boat are his friends from school, so we both really wanted a fun graduation vibe- which for a bunch of mid/late-20s and early 30-year-olds, means alcohol and loud music. Personally, I'm not a fan of children and I think it will not be a kid-friendly environment and would prefer to not have children on the boat -for both safety and party environment reasons- and my fiance agreed. When I brought up the idea of not having children on the boat, one of my sisters said she would probably just leave her daughter with her in-laws if that were the case, and my other sister was very combative and accusatory, wanting to know what to do with her toddler then if she were not allowed to the boat party. I suggested that she could use the babysitter service through our villa management company, a reputable company that rents out luxury homes and offers a bunch of amenities including babysitting, and was told she would not leave her kid with a stranger. I then suggested she leave her daughter at home and was told she "wasn't ready to do that yet", even though her daughter is three and my other sister's daughter is one and she was willing to leave her with family, so that seems kind of unreasonable.

I haven't even gotten around to asking my fiance's sister for fear of even more push back (she's super emotionally sensitive and has also three kids under 5, so she always feels "left out" of things), but I've compromised on essentially everything in my wedding to accommodate our families and gave alternatives to the "no kids of the boat" scenario. I don't have kids nor do I plan to, and I'm kind-of notorious in my family for being anti-children, so am I just being irrational? Ideally, I would choose no children on the yacht; I think it would be weird to try and get drunk and dance with a two-year-old watching you and having to keep an eye on children nearby. My mom suggested having all the children wear life jackets as a solution which is a great idea for the safety aspect of things, but not so much for the toddlers milling around a bunch of drunk adults portion.

Yeah it's a bit selfish to ask that they do something else with their kids for 4 hours, but if you can't be selfish on your wedding day, when can you be? Lol! I have been super accommodating throughout this whole process (I wanted to elope and didn't even want a wedding), changing our location 3 times because immediate family couldn't or wouldn't travel to where we picked and constantly trying to work out how to invite 150 family members to a wedding without paying $30,000+, since I'm paying for our wedding alone without help from my fiance or our parents. Yet since I constantly get advice on how I "should do things", this had probably made me a little more sensitive than most, but I feel like I have sacrificed a lot and that it's not too much to ask to request our siblings sacrifice something in return. Obviously though, I don't have kids so maybe I don't get the full picture?

What do you guys think?

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  • needmorewine
    Expert May 2016
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    You're asking 150 people to spend thousands to travel to a destination wedding and you're refusing to feed them a meal? That's unbelievably rude and selfish. Every person invited to the ceremony needs to be hosted at the reception, children included. You should cut your guest list and only invite the number of people you want to host at your reception/boat trip to the ceremony. Don't show favoritism to a fraction of the guests and treat the rest like crap after they are paying a ton of money to attend your wedding. Saying you can't afford to feed everyone with the current plans doesn't make it ok. That just means you need to change your plans.

    If you won't cut the guest list and can't afford to feed everyone, then maybe a less expensive wedding at home would be a better option. Perhaps have an afternoon cake and punch reception then go on a nice honeymoon.

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  • M
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    If you don't mind me asking, what was the 30k spent on if you're not hosting your 150 guest? If I spent money to fly, clothes, food, sitter and a gift and you paid for food and drink for 30 people and I was not in that group I would be pissed. Also if I was included I would think, that's F up. And I would talk about you to be honest. That's very rude. You can have your boat ride and still feed and host your guest properly in Mexico for way under 30k and still have money left over.

    On another note my wedding will be kid free except for the kids that are in the wedding party and we have made that known. We want a party just like you, that's why we're getting married on NYE. So my sister has decided not to come since her son can't (he's bad as S***) and I am so ok with that. But I would never leave my kids with a sitter service in a foreign country, not even in this country. But people have plenty notice to figure it out or stay home.


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  • karen
    Master October 2017
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    But this is not the "after-party" -- it is the reception. Invite how many people you can afford to the reception. I suspect when people actually have to book trips, many may not attend.

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  • Kelly
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    So first and foremost no child rules at weddings is fairly popular. If you're known for being anti child, don't like them, and don't want them I don't see why anyone would be surprised you're not having them at your wedding or reception. It's well within reason for you to say no kids.
    You're aware that will mean some people won't show up and don't seem bothered by it so don't even ask anyone and just tell everyone in advanced no kids, you're not changing that plan, and it's the parents responsibility to figure out if they can make arrangements to come or not.
    You shouldn't make suggestions to what people do with their kids (especially not in a different country) instead, always just say "I'm not sure, I don't have any sorry!" Or everyone gets combative and it's not worth the effort if you don't like kids.
    Frankly as a (small) boat owner, I would advise against kids on the boat. Children need specific life jackets and to be watched at all times, it's not worth allowing them on board if you can avoid it. Did you ask the company if kids were even allowed? Some companies have age limits or won't serve alcohol with minors on board because of the liability.
    I like kids, they're coming to my wedding, but I think you're really in the right here saying no kids on the boat for a big drunk after-party. It's not safe no matter what you do and any reasonable parent should know that.
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  • Megan
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    Does she have any sitters she would be willing to bring with her? I know that could get expensive but the peace of mind of attending the wedding and having her kid/kids near by with someone she trusts.
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  • D
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    Really just elope. You're not concerned with hosting a meal for traveling guests, are chartering a yacht for select guests, want it to be a graduation vibe, and leave the kids with nannies in a foreign country. Save outside family the obligatory invite and travel expenses and elope.
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  • Devoted August 2021
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    This is super tricky, I guess the easiest thing would be to have an adults only wedding. But it sounds like it’s too late for that. As a mom of teenage boys, I get both sides. Different people have varying degrees doubts leaving their kids with strangers in a foreign country. You can’t force that issue. Good luck!
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  • Trinity
    Beginner May 2020
    Trinity ·
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    No offense, but I was earnestly asking for insight on whether or not we should invite kids to our celebration, not opinions on what we've decided to do in lieu of a reception. What we've decided on works well for us, our families, and our finances; we are close to our entire extended families and have discussed the wedding for close to three years now, so it's not like they don't know our situation and why we're not hosting a reception. A cookie-cutter wedding doesn't work for everyone, and I'm sure for people who haven't gone through graduate school (him- medical school, me- vet school), it's difficult to understand the logistics behind what $140,000 a semester collectively means. We're not demanding people attend our destination wedding, it's actually the opposite. Our families are well aware that if they travel for us, it will be a ceremony only, but that also means a family vacation, so we're not treating anyone "like crap". We're fortunate to have families that care more about us as a couple than a meal and a reception. Our situation is unique to us and has many facets of why we've decided on what we have, and until you know the entire span of our decision making, I think yours is -respectfully- an uninformed and unsolicited opinion.

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  • Trinity
    Beginner May 2020
    Trinity ·
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    We're not spending $30,000, we're spending $10,000, sorry if I made that confusing. And our guests have know well ahead of time that our wedding is ceremony only and are okay with traveling regardless because everyone is excited to have a psuedo-family vacation together and the opportunity to celebrate us as a couple. It won't be a surprise that they're not coming on the boat.

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  • Trinity
    Beginner May 2020
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    For us, it actually is an after-party. The boat is a way to celebrate our graduation with his medical school friends and is not a reception for the wedding. We've made that known that the boat is a med school thing and our siblings and parents are included in that for their financial and emotional support the past 4 years.

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  • Trinity
    Beginner May 2020
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    AMENDMENTS:

    Before anyone else makes a comment, here are a few points I'd like to make known:

    1. We're okay with people deciding not to come, it's WHY we chose a destination wedding.

    2. I'm not looking for opinions on what we should/shouldn't do for our wedding. Deposits are paid, invites are sent, it's done. I'm only asking about kids on the boat or not, as either parents or otherwise.

    3. Our guests all know that our wedding is ceremony only and will not be blindsided by not being invited on the boat, nor do they care. We are fortunate to have supportive families who care about us as a couple and not whether or not they'll get a meal out of our wedding day.

    4. The boat is NOT a reception. It is a party to celebrate graduating medical school and we've made it known to our extended families that it is a med school only thing, which includes our siblings and parents for their financial and emotional support the past 4 years.

    5. Our situation is very complex, both financially and with our families, and it took us 3 years (the length or our engagement) to decide on what we're doing. Without knowing all the facts, please do not give an uninformed and unsolicited opinion on what we should/shouldn't do in terms of our guests or a reception.

    Thanks Smiley smile

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  • Trinity
    Beginner May 2020
    Trinity ·
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    No obligation, we chose destination so people could decide for themselves whether they wanted to come or not. It's primarily why couples choose destination, to weed people out Smiley smile Unfortunately it was not an option for us not to invite extended family; both of our parents were upset with the idea that their siblings would not be given the option to attend or not, and we have very large, supportive families who have expressed that they want to be there regardless, if only for the opportunity to have a family vacation. For some people it goes beyond getting a meal after a ceremony.

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  • needmorewine
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    Proper hosting etiquette is not uninformed or uneducated, nor is it an opinion. One of the bare minimum requirements of hosting a social event such as a wedding is to provide food and drinks appropriate for the time of day to the guests who attend. If you can not afford to properly host the number of guests you are hosting, then the solution is to cut the guest list, not pick and choose the small number of guests who will be hosted and tell the rest they're on their own. That's just basic common sense. Your situation isn't unique, you're planning something beyond your means. We see people on this site trying to do that all the time. Why even invite people if you don't want to host them?

    People really need to stop using the "Our family/friends really love/care about us so they won't mind how poorly we host them" excuse as a way to justify terrible hosting. It really just shows how little the couple cares about them.

    And since you only want to focus on whether children should be invited on the boat ride, yes they should. As much as you want to deny it, the boat ride is serving as the reception for your select few favored wedding guests, and if the children attend the wedding they should also attend the reception/boat ride.

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  • Trinity
    Beginner May 2020
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    Look, I'm not going to argue with you because you don't agree with my wedding. You're not invited so I don't know why you personally care so much, especially when our friends and families have expressed that they're okay with there being no reception and coming to our wedding gives them the opportunity to have a family vacation as well. If they're okay with it and my fiance is happy, then I'm happy. Ceremony only weddings do exist, honey, it's a thing. I honestly don't care what some random person on the internet thinks and didn't ask what you think either, just to be clear. The boat is NOT a reception. It is a party to celebrate graduating medical school and we've made it known to our extended families that it is a med school only thing, which includes our siblings and parents for their financial and emotional support the past 4 years. We made it the same day as our wedding for ease since we know everyone will be there on that day, but again, I really don't have to explain my process to you. Our situation actually is very complex, both financially and with our families, and it took us 3 years (the length of our engagement) to decide on what we're doing. Without knowing all the facts, please do not give an uninformed and unsolicited opinion on what we should/shouldn't do in terms of our guests or a reception. It comes off as very self righteous and honestly, I don't care. I'm not going to change my wedding because you don't approve, haha.

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  • Jennifer
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    I would arrange for someone to watch the small humans. That way the people you’d like that’s have them could still come to the Yacht party.
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  • Trinity
    Beginner May 2020
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    Thank you!

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  • Trinity
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    I gave that as an option but it seems the consensus is that people wouldn't feel comfortable leaving their kids with a stranger. I think we're just going to leave it up to the parents on whether they want to bring them or not. Thanks Jennifer!

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    Just Said Yes September 2020
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    I completely agree with you and if you are paying for the yacht trip then you have every right to ask them not to bring kids along. I have been to weddings where kids were allowed and some where they have not been. Me and my fiancé are choosing to have kids invited but that’s OUR choice and not other family members. You have every right to have it your way without children. Hope this helps and good luck
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  • Erica
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    Congratulations on the upcoming wedding and especially to beautiful spot. I love Tulum! One of my favorite travel spots! I think as someone without children, you have every right to want a child free event on the boat. Especially since you are extremely right with it not being the best environment for young children (ie. Open water, drinking/drunk adults/dancing...) I personally feel that you have provided options and it is now up to your guest to decided what to do. I have friends who have used the babysitting option available at their upscale hotel when traveling in Fiji and other tropical destinations, so I don’t think it’s that crazy of an option. Especially when you have some guest who are willing to utilize their services. At the end of the day, it’s your day and if people are going to make you feel bad about not wanting kids there, then the only other option is just to reiterate to the guest who’d like to bring their kids on the boat, that you are not going to change the vibe of the yacht party and if their comfortable with their children in that cocktail/party vibe then that’s up to them. Good luck lovely
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  • Trinity
    Beginner May 2020
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    Thank you Samantha! I think we're just going to leave it up to the parents on if they feel comfortable bringing them or not since safety was the biggest concern.

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