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Just Said Yes November 2017

Jr. vs Sr. vs III

MM, on November 24, 2017 at 5:10 PM Posted in Etiquette and Advice 0 9

FH just got off the phone with his father about a misunderstanding on this. Grandfather's dad was senior and died years ago, grandpa is a junior, and FFIL is the third. We asked several times to clarify what to write, and were told to put JR. for grandpa and III for dad.

Dad found out that we put JR. for grandpa and just screamed at FH for an hour about how if the Sr. dies, the Jr changes to Sr, but the third stays the same. Grandpa always told us it was Jr. Aside from FH now being very upset at his dad (which is nothing new), now I'm more confused than anything making the seating chart labels.

The men of my family are the same, but they all kept their labels. What's the point numbering your kin if you keep moving them up anyway? You'd lose count! Smiley tongue

Should I just follow what FFIL says? Is there any rule on this, or just go with whatever each's individual preference is? Anyone else have a hierarchy of men too?

TBH, I feel like FFIL is a bit oversensitive and being rude to FH. :/

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Latest activity by Kayla, on November 24, 2017 at 9:14 PM
  • 2d Bride
    Champion October 2009
    2d Bride ·
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    They should all bump down when one dies. Oldest one alive is Sr. (Or just doesn't have a suffix at all.) Next is Jr., one after that is III. If Sr. dies, Jr. becomes Sr. and III becomes Jr.

    https://www.justmommies.com/pregnancy/baby-https://www.weddingwire.com/wedding-forums/jr-vs-sr-vs-iii/f7c7915bd83210c1.html#names/baby-names-are-90s-names-ready-for-comeback

    However, screaming at your son for an honest mistake about an issue many find confusing is far more rude than using the wrong suffix.

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  • MM
    Just Said Yes November 2017
    MM ·
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    That's what I thought too. Honestly, I got a laugh out of it because I couldn't find any research that says anything like that.

    And why would you move Jr to Sr, but not III to Jr? It just sounds bonkers to me. Like grandpa passes and you just tell everyone, "Nah, I'm not Jr. anymore." I'm positive it's part of my family's legal name. Plus banks and credit card companies would have been confused if my dad changed to Sr when his dad died.

    Just wondering if anyone else had a trio and has ever heard of it! We're going with calling grandpa by his full name, no suffix, and FFIL by III. That's what grandpa told us to do! Smiley smile

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  • JMF
    Devoted August 2018
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    My grandpa was first last Jr. My uncle is first last III. Even though my grandpa passed away, my uncle is still Jr. But it is also his legal name.

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  • Mary C
    Super November 2018
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    Nothing changes. My family has this and no one has ever moved rank. It is on the birth certificate as Jr or II, III, etc. Unless you change a birth certificate, it stays.

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  • A
    Savvy March 2018
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    It's part of their legal name you can't change it. If you did you would have to legally change it

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  • karen
    Master October 2017
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    Who cares what the rules are, they are so much the jerk for making a big deal of it. Traditionally, 1939 Emily Post said when Grandpa dies, Son loses the junior. Only Kings kept the IIII, so they could be distinguished.

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  • plangalCG
    VIP May 2018
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    Yeah, the technical way it's done is that everyone bumps down, but in my family, my grandpap was Sr, my dad Jr and my brother III...and though my grandfather died, it's stayed the same. So everyone needs to chill a bit!

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  • mrsmack
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    I've never heard of that rule. My grandpa was senior and my uncle junior and it was not changed when my granpda passed. I think FFIL is being ridiculous for screaming at him like that. I would do whatever makes the most sense to you and FH.

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  • Kayla
    Dedicated June 2018
    Kayla ·
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    Yeah I think he's crazy. My son is a 4th even though the Sr has passed. I mean the senior is the one that started it and he is the 4th one to be named that? My FH has first last III on everything, his checks, his license even his birth certificate so I'm pretty sure just because one dies they don't all change

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