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Just Said Yes October 2019

Is it valid?

Jessica, on June 27, 2018 at 9:05 PM Posted in Wedding Ceremony 0 11
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Okay so.... our date is October 11, 2019. My aunt is ordained online. I have no idea which church. I got curious & got ordained in 30 seconds through universal life church. I asked my aunt to officiate our wedding & she said she said she didn't think that was allowed in Pennsylvania. What I need to know is - if someone is ordained online, are they able to perform the ceremony & it be valid in Pennsylvania? How does it work? I'm so clueless & I'm gonna have a breakdown cause this wedding stuff is stressing me out

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Latest activity by Grace , on June 28, 2018 at 2:27 AM
  • Caytlyn
    Legend November 2019
    Caytlyn ·
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    It doesn't look like that would be legal in PA.

    "Applicants are advised that persons who have been ordained over the Internet may not be persons permitted to perform marriages in Pennsylvania. A recent Court decision held that persons ordained over the Internet are not ministers as defined in the marriage law of Pennsylvania IF they do not regularly preach to a congregation that regularly meets at a place of worship. You are advised to consult an attorney concerning the legality of such marriages."

    https://www.mcc.co.mercer.pa.us/registerofwills/Disclaimer.Marriage.License.Officiants.pdf


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  • J
    Just Said Yes October 2019
    Jessica ·
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    Okay this helps. Thanks!
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  • K
    Dedicated March 2019
    Katie ·
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    You will need to check with your county clerk. There should also be a link on the church's website that lists what the state laws are and how to go about being everything set up, that's the site we are using to get my best friend ordained. I'll see if I can find the links I saw previously.
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  • Monica
    Expert September 2018
    Monica ·
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    I would do a google search on marriage requirements for your county as it can vary.
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  • Liv
    Just Said Yes March 2019
    Liv ·
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    Pennsylvania also has a self-uniting marriage license—you could apply for and use it and just ask your aunt to do the ceremony with you guys the day of for “show” so to speak.
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  • J
    Just Said Yes October 2019
    Jessica ·
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    I really like that idea! We might look into that. Thank you!
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  • K
    Dedicated March 2019
    Katie ·
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    Https://www.google.com/amp/s/verdict.justia.com/amp/2011/11/01/can-universal-life-church-ministers-officiate-at-weddings-in-some-states-the-answer-is-no

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  • K
    Dedicated March 2019
    Katie ·
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    This is from that article.

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  • Erin
    Expert October 2018
    Erin ·
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    Definitely check with your county clerks office to find out for sure. I'm in Luzerne County, Pennsylvania and my understanding is it's only Bucks & York counties that don't accept ULC ministers. The woman from Luzerne County that actually files the marriage licenses said to me if it says minister then she takes it at that and processes the marriage license. Her exact words were "I'm not the minister police". :-)
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  • TarHeel729
    Expert July 2017
    TarHeel729 ·
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    Even if the county records the marriage certificate, that does necessarily mean that the marriage is legal. The problem will occur at a later date (potentially years later) if the legality of the marriage is challenged (during divorce or for some other reason) and a court determines the marriage was not valid—i.e. never happened.

    Please do not listen to legal advice from internet strangers. Talk to a family lawyer in Pennsylvania. Or just avoid the issue and hire a professional. The whole point of the wedding is to get married. This is the one detail you do not want to leave to chance.
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  • G
    Savvy June 2019
    Grace ·
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    Idk if you would be interested in this but my best friend had a similar situation. In Tennessee you have to be a preacher/priest/pastor etc, but she wanted her godfather to officiate. To get around this, they had a private ceremony about an hour before the wedding with a different (legal) officiant (they stood back to back because they weren’t doing a first look) and then had her godfather officiated their actual ceremony right after. No one even knew this took place until weeks after the wedding when the videographer’s footage of their “secret ceremony” got so famous that basically everyone in the world has seen it now haha!

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