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Astrid
Savvy September 2020

i don't want my narcissist, formerly abusive mother to come wedding dress shopping with me

Astrid, on November 19, 2019 at 9:25 AM Posted in Wedding Attire 0 16

Hi, everyone. I'm getting married next year and my narcissistic, formerly abusive mother adamantly expects to help me pick out my wedding gown.

My mother was extremely abusive to me while I was growing up. She was also obsessed with my appearance, often telling me I was ugly, which led to my lifelong struggle with dysmorphia. She dragged me on endless shopping trips to dress me up like a doll, which I hated - not only was I tomboyish as a child, but I'm very petite, and clothes for girls my age never fit me. Being forced to try on ill-fitting things or clothes from the toddler section, sometimes for hours, was extremely distressing, especially when my mother flew into rages. When I was 20 years old, I cut her out of my life and we did not speak for five years. I began seeing a therapist, who I see to this day. With therapy, I learned to move past the abuse to the point where I was able to reunite the family. My mother had been scared straight and has not been cruel to me since.

14 years later, I'm - somehow - engaged to a wonderful man. We're planning on telling our families at Christmas. I'm dreading it because I know my mother will assume she will be helping me choose a dress. Even though we now have a decent relationship, I don't want her anywhere near the dress shops. Shopping for wedding dresses inevitably brings up body issues for most women, and though I've learned to accept my small size (4'11", 45kg), I'm sure all my old issues will come back - and some new ones, too, as I'll be an "older bride". Mom is losing her filter as she ages, and in the past year or her mask is slipping and she's become increasingly critical. She is extremely traditional and closed-minded and will not understand my concept of a minimalist, edgy dress with no veil.

I've been to three dress shops on my own. It was fantastic - no stress from outside opinions and I didn't look nearly as bad as I thought I would. Over the summer, I showed my mother a picture of dress I liked. She immediately winced: "No, you can't wear that. That will look ridiculous on you." I tried it on the other week but before I did, I asked the assistant: "Do you think this dress will look ridiculous on me?" and she said, "Absolutely not!" To my delight, I loved it. I told the sales assistant what my mother had said and the assistant replied, "That's why you asked! I couldn't figure out why on earth you would think so."

I'm loving the solo process, but am sick to my stomach when I think of my mother's reaction when I tell her. Part of her desire to go wedding dress shopping is because she is still resentful that my grandmother didn't go with her, and I know she will be crushed. Even if I tell her that I'm doing it on my own, she will still take it as a personal affront. I don't know how to mitigate this without caving and allowing her to come with me, laying myself open to her criticism and my PTSD. I also feel guilty - I know that many women who've lost their mothers would love to have them present. My anxiety over this is casting a shadow on the joy of dress hunting and I'm not sure how to proceed. Any thoughts would be greatly welcome.


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Latest activity by Kristen, on November 20, 2019 at 6:39 AM
  • Sarah
    Master September 2019
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    My thoughts would honestly be to not tell your mother anything about your dress or wedding. She can’t criticize what she doesn’t know about and it sounds like she’s not interested in forming a positive relationship with you. You don’t need to worry about whether you’re offending someone who has emotionally abused you.
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  • Amber
    Master February 2020
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    I would definitely go by yourself given your history with your mother. From the way you describe her, I do think she'd take it personally. But hopefully a simple "I want my dress to be a surprise for you!" might smooth things over just a little. Please don't let her guilt you into letting her go, I wouldn't even tell her you're going until after the fact. You deserve to feel comfortable and beautiful while shopping! It may ruffle some feathers, but she'll just have to get over it. Best of luck!

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  • Erin
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    Your mental health is far more important than your mother’s feelings. She was terrible to you as a kid in this EXACT kind of scenario. While you guys might be ok now, I would definitely have a hard time putting myself back into that kind of situation if it was me. I’m really sorry you went through all of that. My dad used to give me a hard time as a kid because I had acne, he would call me pizza face and tell me to go wash my face several times a day. He finally stopped when I ended up getting 2nd degree chemical burns kn my nose from the acne medication because I have really sensitive skin.


    Maybe try telling her you want it to be a surprise for everyone so you’re doing it on your own?
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  • Astrid
    Savvy September 2020
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    Hi, Sarah. Thank you for your reply. She actually would love a positive relationship with me - the kind many (non-abusive) mothers have with their daughters. She really does try to be supportive and loving - obviously, something she never did while I was growing up. I really appreciate her efforts, but she has also never accepted responsibility for her past behavior, and has conveniently 'forgotten' everything terrible she ever did. The few times I've casually brought up things she did, she's always said, "i don't remember that" or sometimes gets defensive: "oh, so everything is my fault." (yes, actually). It's like she wiped the slate clean, without my permission.


    She is often frustrated that I instinctively hold her at arm's length and this will feel like a slap in the face.

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  • Astrid
    Savvy September 2020
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    Hi, Erin. My mother was also really cruel about my acne - sometimes she would slap me because I "disgusted" her and, like your dad, she called me names and inferred that the acne was my fault. What you went through sounds horrifying - I'm so sorry that's what it took for him to stop.


    I have thought about telling her what you suggested - that it's a surprise for everyone. I don't think she'll understand - like any narcissist, she's extremely sensitive to "rejection", and I know that's how she'll take it. But it's definitely something I can try.

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  • Ivy ORP
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    My thoughts are to remind yourself and her that your wishes are yours for a reason. If you are more comfortable dress shopping alone, then it is her responsibility to accept that. If she can't, that is not your job to make it ok for her. You cannot control her reaction and she cannot control you. I would be honest with her about your reasons and feelings if you wish to continue a relationship, and let her know that if it becomes toxic you may have to do what is best for you.


    I cut my biological mother out of my life several times over the years and always let her come back out of some sense of duty and obligation, it never went well. This last time I refused to even tell my mother that I was getting married. I will be sending her a letter without a return address to let her know now that we are married. I don't think there is anything wrong in standing up for yourself, even if it's to your parents. In any way you can, you need to live a happy and healthy life. If taking your mom dress shopping inhibits that, then don't put yourself back in the hole you already climbed out of. Good luck to you and happy dress hunting!

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  • Pirate & 60s Bride
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    Please don’t tell her and do not invite her. Her rude commute a photo just sealed her fate on that one. You do not owe her the opportunity to be unsupportive or cruel to her during such an incredible (and stressful time). In my opinion she’s lucky to be getting an invitation. Please keep some distance between you during this process so you can enjoy your wedding planning. You deserve it.


    If she protests “No thank you” and “Its a surprise for the wedding” are complete sentences.
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    Don’t tell her when you’re going. That way she can’t even just show up.
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  • Astrid
    Savvy September 2020
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    That's been working so far, Marcia - she doesn't know we're engaged yet and I live overseas. When we tell our families, she's going to flip out and I'll have to stave her off from buying a ticket to fly out. I'm also nervous that she'll cause a scene in front of my future in-laws.

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  • Rose
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    Oh...do we have the same mother?!? Don't feel guilty nor consider her feelings of not having her with you! Don't show her the dress you pick either! I didn't ask my mother nor talked to her about my wedding and the only reason she is invited is because she will be my stepdad's plus one! 😆😭😂
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  • MOB So Cal
    January 2019
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    I agree with others that it's clearly necessary for you to maintain tight boundaries as far as your mother is concerned given her long-track record of terrible behavior. Where is your therapist in all this? I'd expect her to be working with you on specific strategies to use with your mother -- especially since it sounds like once your mom knows about your engagement it will likely trigger unacceptable behavior from her.

    It wasn't at all the same situation, but there was someone (a male) who immediately started talking about going dress shopping with daughter as soon as she got engaged. The idea completely creeped daughter out; he's an odd person, who isn't always appropriate about boundary issues, so there was no way daughter wanted him dress shopping with us. Daughter's a very private person, who knows her own mind. The only person she wanted to dress shop with was me; she never even considered having her dad, who she is very close to, go with us. We just planned our shopping trips and never said a word to the man who made it clear he expected to be invited. It was a while after she'd chosen her dress that he realized she'd already shopped. She was relieved he never said anything to her about it. Clearly, it sounds like your mom won't respond as calmly to being excluded, but that doesn't mean you can't not tell her anything and shop/purchase your dress without her knowing that you have. If necessary, perhaps you can enlist help from your fiance or a member of your common family with your mother to make it clear to her if she cannot respect your boundaries, she will be excluded from the wedding completely. Yes, she's your mother, but that doesn't excuse any of the abusive behavior she has subjected you to and seems capable of continuing in the future. Good luck to you! Smiley heart

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  • Erika
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    This is a special moment for you.
    Anything that will trigger anxiety should not be a part of your wedding dress shopping.
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  • Alyssa
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    Buy a dress on your own, with your MOH or even breaking tradition with your fiance if you feel fit-but tell your mom AFTER you've found the dress.

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  • Deirdre
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    I agree with all PP who say to just not tell her. I will also add, you have nothing to feel guilty about. As a woman who lost her mother at a young age, I would never judge you/think you are doing anything wrong by not inviting your mom to go dress shopping. If a woman without a mother says anything to make you feel guilty, ignore them, they are jerks or really haven't learned to grieve properly. I am a full believer in doing what is right for yourself and not sacrificing your well-being for toxic relationships. Best of luck. Just because some people don't have mothers, doesn't mean you have to spend time with a mother who's toxic, just because she's alive.

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  • N
    Just Said Yes April 2020
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    This is about you and your experience, and not your mother. You should not have to bear the burden and feel guilty about this when she was the root cause of the dysfunction.


    Even if you are working to forgive her, which is wonderful, this still seems like it crosses a line for you and you are under no obligation to put her feelings above your own. She has a history of being manipulative and abusive and it sounds like she’s still trying to manipulate you around this issue as well. I would suggest going solo and just telling her you’ve already found the dress when you announce the engagement.
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  • Kristen
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    I'm kind of an agreement with people that say just don't tell her. When I chose my dress I took my best friend and I texted a couple of other friends that couldn't make it that day and my aunt that also couldn't make it. This is a little petty but I didn't tell one of my friends because years ago when I was her bridesmaid she invited me to go dress shopping with her and then all the sudden she pops out of blue and says I have my dress. Never saw anything or went shipping. I kind of felt like if I told her she'd want to go and I'd feel obligated. And really it was best just having my best friend there and my aunts opinion and really the two other friends there were just for a tiebreaker between two dresses we loved. You should be happy choosing your dress and the style you want is the style you want. You basically have one of two options: don't tell her you're dress shopping and just choose the dress and then when she asks just say that you are so excited that you just couldn't wait and you saw some great deals at the store that you wanted to check out. Or you can be straight-up honest and just say I think it's best I go alone to avoid any hurt feelings. If anything she should feel resentful of how she was during the past and understand why you are not wanting to invite her on a special moment in your wedding process. Option two is you can invite her to come if she's willing to spend a plane ticket although even if it were my child I wouldn't fly overseas or dress shopping. But be upfront with her and say a big part of the reason why we did not speak for a long time is because as a child you are very critical about my appearance and this is the style I'm looking for and I need support with what I want. If you're not able to offer that then I think it's best you don't go.
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