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Rachel
Just Said Yes November 2019

Guest list issues

Rachel, on July 19, 2019 at 5:46 PM Posted in Family and Relationships 0 17

My fiancees family has been all over the place throughout the process and is also not contributing (except for a sunday brunch). We asked for a guest list months ago and my fiancee called his mother and they agreed to move certain individuals to a B list. Apparently, she forgot the conversation and this resulted in her screaming at me about who was and who was not sent save the dates. Literally SCREAMING to the point that I had to hang up the phone. She claims that people we had sent save the dates to were not on her list (but it was sent via email so it was all in writing) and while she was screaming she told me we removed the people who would be giving us money and the people left (who are mostly younger) would not give us good gifts etc. Of course, we're not planning on a return on our investment. That would be a terrible way to make money. She never apologized, I actually apologized and said sorry she was so upset.

Now we're ordering invitations and she wants to remove 2 people who we sent save the dates to which I think is extremely tactless and replace them with 4 others. Two of the replacements she told me to remove previously because she was not invited to their birthday party.

We have a long B list and she's contributing $0 to the wedding after she previously made commitments she has not been able to fulfill. She has also told us that she's now thinking of contributing but it's months before the wedding so the budget's figured out. Is it too much to say that those 4 can stay on the B list? It seems like she feels entitled to these guest spots.

My fiancee's family also just let me know that if his dad (his parents are divorced) has a girlfriend by November he wants to be able to have a +1. I feel like if he's been dating someone for less than 3 months I don't want her at my wedding, also he's not contributing, and he's been married and divorced 3 times so for me it personally feels gross.

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Latest activity by Denise, on July 22, 2019 at 5:08 PM
  • Kaitlyn
    Devoted May 2020
    Kaitlyn ·
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    If she's not chipping in, she needs to grin and bear it.

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  • Sherry
    Master September 2019
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    Personally, I don't think you should ever have a B list for your wedding. You invite who you want there and can afford to have there and that is it. Next, is it your wedding or hers? Sounds like you need to take back the reigns for your own wedding.

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  • Rachel
    Just Said Yes November 2019
    Rachel ·
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    I agree but they're extremely dramatic and difficult and I'm trying to keep the peace overall. Does this mean I just say no?



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  • Sherry
    Master September 2019
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    I would. Unless they are paying for the wedding, they really shouldn't have any input in your planning unless you ask for their opinion or help with something. This is exactly the reason my FH and I have kept every aspect of the planning to ourselves. As soon as we started sharing it with other people, here came the you need to do this, invite them, change this......wait, what! No, this is our wedding lol

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  • Mandi
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    You should absolutely say no! No money = no say!! I am also of the opinion that if someone is not important enough to you to be included when you send invites out the first time, they should not be invited at all! You have to draw a line somewhere and someone is always going to be left on the other side of it.

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  • M
    Legend June 2019
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    Gah yea I feel ya. My parents and his were annoying about the guest lists even though they didn't contribute. Sometimes you just have to be like YOU KNOW WHAT, NO! Aha it can be hard to say no but sometimes people are out of line
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  • Rachel
    Just Said Yes November 2019
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    I'm worried that the wedding will feel one sided with my fiancee not having as many friends/family there. I just went to a wedding that was entirely paid for by the brides side as well and it felt very one sided in a bad way.

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  • Caytlyn
    Legend November 2019
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    The only thing worse than a b list is not sending an invitation to someone who received a save the date. I wouldn’t do either of those things. If they don’t fit the guest list, they don’t fit. “No” is a complete sentence. That’s it. She’ll get over it.
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  • Cher Horowitz
    Master December 2019
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    Since FMIL isn't paying for your reception, she can't complain. She's welcome to invite whoever she likes if she foots their bill. As PPs said, be firm with your guest list. Good luck!

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  • Jennifer
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    Wow! I am sooooooo sorry you are going through this! I hope it can be resolved, easily.

    I am about to embark on the “Great Guest List Debate” myself- with my FMIL, FH & my Dad/stepmom in a week, when we are all in FL( the parents and respective stepparents live in FL) for “vacation”( FH has a timeshare in Orlando, we go every yr- this yr it’s JUST he and I!! But it won’t be a vacation trust me!).

    FH is 53, I am 41, and he is paying for 85-90% of the Wedding- with me paying the rest.
    His mom/stepdad are NOT contributing anything- no rehearsal dinner or morning after breakfast( as they feel he is able to pay his own way, he’s a successful trial attorney, & the FMIL Hates me.)- yet she feels the need to remind me that “so & so” MUST be invited and if They are then “soo & soo” must be too....
    Can’t wait for her to try the “My friends who met you 2x from FL MUST be invited!” Crap.

    We are at, with most of it being HIS family, friends and “coworker”( other lawyers, his office staff, political ppl) & my limited family, friends and “coworkers”( photographers, models, designers) 200+, Yup TWO HUNDRED PLUS- you read it right, people!!!!! 90% of the list is his....
    We haven’t, really, even asked my mom, dad/stepmom, his mom/stepdad if THEY have anyone to add!!! But, I know my moms list is the same as mine- save maybe 2!- so she won’t be an issue, and doubt my dad will be, stepmom might want me to add her 3 daughters- whom I don’t know at all really 😕😓. It’s HIS Mom I’m worried about.

    Rule of thumb: If you’ve sent a Save the Date you send an invite.
    If the venue Can hold more, and you have the budget( and niceness!) to add the extra people go ahead. Or tell her 1) She can cover their cost 2) Venue cannot allow anymore people
    3) Venue can’t allow anymore this close to wedding- as all is set.

    What does FH day about his mom’s treatment of you? If he’s okay with it I’d not only be having a nice long talk with Mommy-dearest, but I’d also be having one with him. Remind him that disrespectful behavior from ANYONE towards you is not okay- especially from His family. And vice versa.

    As for dads plus one, it’s his plus one to do with as he pleases. Bring a new Girlfriend or not. Just because you, or ex wife, have an issue with his serial marriages doesn’t mean that he shouldn’t be extended the same courtesy as everyone else. And you probably won’t even notice her really, you’ll be too busy having fun!
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  • Pirate & 60s Bride
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    1) NO to your FH’s FMIL. To not send someone an invite after giving them a Save The Date isn’t just rude, it’s a slap in the face.

    1A) Your fiancé needs to address his mom about her behavior. Her screaming at you is NOT acceptable. Ever. She needs to apologize.

    2) If FH’s dad is dating someone, she needs to be included. It’s proper etiquette and polite to FH’s dad. You probably have 2 weeks before the wedding to give your final head count so check with his dad closer to the date.

    Hang in there!
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  • Heather
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    I completely agree with this. My motto is : “No wallet, no opinion.”
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  • Rachel
    Just Said Yes November 2019
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    I agree about the apology and I’ve said it a million times. It’snot going to happen and it’s been discussed, she’s never apologized for anything including offered to throw a bridal shower and rehearsal dinner and backing out of both.

    If hes he’s been dating someone for 2 weeks and just met her is it really appropriate for him to bring her?
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  • Florida Marlins
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    Yes it is appropriate for her to bring her. Just keep her out of photos, lol. We extended a plus one to my hubby's friend who was single, no GF at the time. He could have brought the chick he met the week before at Applebee's and as long as she was clean and friendly, I don't care. I wanted the friend to be comfortable. Look, I will be blunt: Not allowing your dad a plus one (when everyone else gets one) is a very serious thing and could result in estrangement. I am a two time bride and trust me: You won't even notice her, you will be so busy. Just keep her out of the professional photos that are family only She could end up marrying your dad or being his SO for a long time......that would be embarrassing.

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  • Pirate & 60s Bride
    Legend March 2017
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    Ugh. Let your FH deal with her. I'd probably ignore her at this point. She knows her behavior is wrong and doesn't care.

    Not super appropriate but it can be hard for divorced parents to attend something like a wedding alone (even though other family is there). If he gives you his guest's name before final count is due (usually 1 week before wedding), it'll be a lot less drama if you let his guest attend.

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  • Alli
    Devoted October 2020
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    "she's contributing $0 to the wedding" She can get over herself. I'd get rid of the B list and invite who you want at YOUR wedding that YOU are paying for. And I wouldn't be inviting the dad's GF either.


    Let them be crazy on their own time.

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  • Denise
    Super September 2019
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    I think that if she's not chipping in, she has no room to be so picky. Actually, no I don't think she really has the right to be picky anyway because it's not her wedding, it's not about her. It's about you. I asked my FMIL for a guest list months ago, got it fairly quickly. Then, FH & I went through & chose the ones he thought were logical (The ones he knew & knew he'd want there). FMIL had no words, she totally understands.

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