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Gabbie
Just Said Yes June 2026

Babies, In-law Rivalries, and Decor - Oh My!

Gabbie, on July 16, 2025 at 6:20 PM Posted in Etiquette and Advice 1 1

I am seeking advice on how to manage family expectations, as a black sheep middle child who is marrying the black sheep middle child of another family.

For context, my betrothed's family is very traditional, but my partner and I are both Queer--so we view family a bit differently. I came from a working-class family, where my mom works in health care and my dad works in education. Whereas, in my partner's family, their father is a doctor, and their mother has been a stay-at-home mom since the late 1990s.

We've had a lot of conflict with not meeting my betrothed's parents' expectations (for example, getting married before living together, following the traditional timeline of settling into a job, getting married in a church, and having children). We'll have been together for seven years in December 2025, and originally got engaged back in 2020, but neither of us was ready--and frankly, neither was the wedding industry at that time, so we decided to wait until the timing felt right--but now have a date set for June 2026.

In the meantime, my partner's brother met a girl on Hinge, got engaged after less than a year of dating, married the next year, and now they'll be expecting a baby just short of being together for three years. They are very religious and we are not--which is also a big tension between my partner and their parents, who are also Evangelicals and now attend the church that my partner's brother plays guitar at for their worship services. I feel insecure because my partner has been compared every step of the way to their older brother's "golden child" and his sweet wife. I do love them, but it hurts a lot that our journey isn't as valued as theirs!

When they got married in 2024, I was told I wouldn't be a part of the wedding. I wasn't in the loop about wedding festivities and wasn't treated like I was a part of the family to the point where I wasn't sure that I'd be included in family pictures or the bachelorette weekend. I had to ask what to wear about a month and a half before to even broach the topic. Then, they offered to walk me down the aisle, which felt patronizing, so I declined, and told them they'd pay me to manage their reception decorating and set-up. To sum up, they only rented a facility, which meant we had to wash and steam linens, cut florals on site, set up an decor and special tables, assemble arches and photo backgrounds, arrange glassware, fold napkins, and more in less than 3 hours so I would have enough time to go home to shower and get ready for the actual wedding. I have experience working in events, and I LOVE that work, but after the fact, they didn't pay me.

Instead, they said they'd help with anything my partner and I need for our wedding. Needless to say, I was upset. I had put time into planning teams and execution to make sure it went off without a hitch, and even luckily caught a few things they missed the week before the wedding. (Like, yes, you have to open the bins of the tablecloths you bought off Facebook marketplace to wash and dry them!!) The bridesmaids all received gifts, had their hair and makeup paid for, were sent flowers and cards, and I was hardly recognized. Now, they're having a baby that is due one month from our tentative combined bach weekend dates and 5 months before our wedding. I am not under any impression that they'll be able to help to the extent that they promised, so it feels like a slap in the face. Our venue will do a lot of the things that I needed to do for their wedding reception, but I still would have liked their help.

On top of all of that, my FSIL's mother has affirmed a few times that she's so excited to attend my wedding, when my family wasn't invited to theirs. Our wedding will also be smaller due to the venue and affordability. My FBIL even missed a dinner where I'd asked family members to save the date so our full families could meet--they still haven't, almost 7 years later. My partner's mom and my FSIL's mom were so competitive about weight and appearance at their wedding that I'm nervous they'll bring that energy, alongside competing as new grandmas at our wedding, so I don't know what to do.

Should we tell them they should plan on coming to the bach party because they'll be new parents? This idea makes my partner sad because he wants his brother there, but what if his brother doesn't think he can?

Is it bad for us to say we don't want my FSIL's family there after they forced an invitation? If we don't invite my FSIL's mother, who should recruit to help with the newborn if my FSIL's mother won't be there, so that my family and my partner's family aren't in charge of the baby during the wedding responsibilities? The wedding will be child-free except for the new family baby--is there a time when we can politely tell them that the baby needs to leave by? Does that mean they need to leave too and can't be around to dance?

I'm so excited to be an Aunt, I cried upon hearing the good news, but am anxious about how to navigate this, being the black sheep alongside my fiancé and my SIL (also the golden child of her family), being married to the golden child in my partner's family.

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Latest activity by Alina, on July 23, 2025 at 4:14 AM
  • LM
    Super December 2022
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    I think you should stop calling yourself and your partner the black sheep because it sounds like you're internalizing other people's unspoken (or spoken!) expectations. On fact, I think what you can do in your power is lower your expectations of Them. Those ppl did nothing for their own wedding, so now that their pregnant, they will ultimately do nothing for you. They wouldn't even pay you for your time. They're shameless. So go on and plan what you want with your partner in life and don't think too hard about others. Shake it off. And when someone assumes they're invited, smile coolly and say, "we're keeping it small" and change the subject. Honestly you deserve more respect, but first it begins with you on yourself. Best wishes.
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  • Alina
    Beginner November 2026
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    I am so sorry you're dealing with this. Congratulations on your engagement! You and your spouse deserve to have an absolutely amazing, drama free and unobstructed wedding. If you just wanted to vent, you can stop reading here - what follows is my response to (and potential advice for your situation). If you don't want it, pay no mind and enjoy your engagement era to the fullest!

    There's a lot going on here, and I think a few of these things are far beyond the scope of your wedding. I think going to therapy for some of these lingering issues will help you a lot during this next season of your life - especially with setting boundaries with family while trying to live up to (impossible) expectations. Standing issues like this tend to grow and fester with the stress (and excitement) of planning a wedding.

    My biggest piece of advice is to remember the reason you are marrying your spouse! Do you want a grand event? In this circumstance I'm apt for saying escape to Edinburgh, elope & spend the most amazing time of your life there with your partner for a while instead of dealing with all the nonsense (for the same price). However, that's the petty in me (and probably some projection).

    To address the situation with brother in law's wedding - what they did was wrong and they know it. To offer to hire someone, let them pour themselves into it and then change the 'terms of payment' after the fact is acting in bad faith. I am assuming this was never addressed due to the expectation of help with your upcoming wedding that is suddenly out the window because of the baby coming along.

    I know you want to remain a part of their lives, especially with the excitement of becoming an Auntie, and it seems a good relationship between brother and spouse, but if the flip isn't acknowledged, it will likely just eat at you. No matter what, I think it should be addressed separately from the wedding. It's worth a conversation to say "Hey, you did this and that really sucked. I don't want it to drive a wedge into our relationship more than it started to, so I really needed to address it."

    You already know there isn't necessarily a right answer or route in this circumstance, but there are some things you can do to mitigate potential disaster. The first order of business is the guest list. Nail it down. Start with the people who MUST be there (according to you and your partner, not tradition or familial expectations) these will be members of the wedding party and people you would not want to miss your wedding. Next, the people you would prefer to be there - friends, family you are close with, anyone that when you close your eyes and imagine your event, brings you joy to see. That could be the end of your list, if you really wanted.

    If I am understanding right, your future sister in law's mother? has invited herself to the wedding, despite your family not being invited to theirs. This could be a misunderstanding/misalignment in values if they are also traditional. Since you and your Future Spouse were not married, there may not have been an expectation that your family was to be involved without the marriage tie. I'm not saying it's right, but it could be the issue. Regardless, unless you have a particularly close relationship, it's kind of unhinged (but not necessarily unexpected). This tends to happen with weddings.

    Remember that you are under no obligation to invite anyone you don't need or want at your wedding, especially if you are keeping it small due to budgeting constraints. To resolve the issue of competing grandmothers and declining the self-invite, you might consider letting her know that due to venue capacity and the wedding budget you had to cut the guest list down. It could be an opportunity for her to keep the baby, let her daughter have a nice date night and bond with her new grand baby. If MILs are competing already, you can paint it to feed her ego (since apparently it's big enough to invite her to someone's wedding). Maybe that's the petty in me again, but it might resolve the issue.

    Even if that's not how you handle it, there is absolutely nothing wrong with saying, "I'm so sorry but after everyone is accounted for, there is not enough venue capacity or money to keep the guest list extended so far out." In that case, you will just need to plan for someone to mind the baby for them, if they are even open to it. Some new parents are very averse to a babysitter (even within the family) at 5-6 months (extra consideration if they are breastfeeding).

    As far as the bach weekend, speaking from experience, it may be quite difficult for FSIL to attend one month out of giving birth. Whether it's natural or C-section, the healing process can take a lot of time, even without any complications. I can tell you I would not have been able to attend even a short, low activity celebration one month off of giving birth to either of my kids, and I've had plenty of friends and family who had C Sections and took months to recover.

    I would definitely make it known you'd love for her to be there (if you would) but you understand if she can't make it. Whether or not FBIL comes or not is completely up to him & FSIL. She may be fine with him attending even if she can't make it, and he will either be frightened or relieved to be away from the new baby for a few days. You know them better than I, but I think the best thing to do is to give them an open invitation and let them know how special it would be for FBIL to make it for your spouse. In fact, that's likely a better conversation for spouse to have with FBIL. Just know if they both come, they may be very limited in what they can do.

    Another potential idea is to host your bach, live it up & before or afterwards do something with them at home so they are still part of it in some way.

    Navigating all of this stuff is (in my opinion) the most stressful part of the wedding era. The most important thing, again, is to remember what it's all for. Whether it's just you and them, or with 200 people, whether you're spending $500 or $100,000 on the wedding, the goal is to celebrate your love for each other with the people you treasure the most.

    Don't let anxiety or stress or family expectations ruin the most beautiful thing in the world - finding your forever person & setting your love in (figurative) stone with the people who cherish you as much as you cherish them. You clearly value your relationship with FBIL & FSIL, and in 10 years when the wedding is an anniversary and the baby is graduating 4th grade, you won't remember who watched the baby or what MIL won the weight competition, what you will remember is who showed up and showed out for you, who celebrated you openly and without regard and the people who chose to be around for the long run.

    No matter how it plays out, I hope you and your spouse get to share an incredible day with amazing people. This is just a stop along the way, so don't get so caught up in the weeds that you miss the flowers. All the best Smiley heart

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